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noggin
Founding member
The regional interactive service will be broadcasting the same BBC One digital feed as is fed to the regional digital terrestrial transmitters. (It will be the regional BBC One digital feed, NOT just a feed of studio output)
This will thus be 16:9 for the Six - and 14:9 pillarbox in a 16:9 frame for the regional opts.
(BBC London - which will replace UK Today as the main sustaining and network feed on the main BBC One England feed is 16:9 already though. Birmingham, Leeds, Southampton and Manchester are still 4:3 studios broadcasting in 14:9 masked letterbox on analogue and 14:9 pillarbox on digital in 16:9)
This will thus be 16:9 for the Six - and 14:9 pillarbox in a 16:9 frame for the regional opts.
(BBC London - which will replace UK Today as the main sustaining and network feed on the main BBC One England feed is 16:9 already though. Birmingham, Leeds, Southampton and Manchester are still 4:3 studios broadcasting in 14:9 masked letterbox on analogue and 14:9 pillarbox on digital in 16:9)
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noggin
Founding member
Err - if you're getting 'ook North' then you must be watching via digital on a 4:3 set in 4:3 mode... If you watch London in this mode you're in for a shock - some of their shots look terrible in 4:3... (I'd seriously recommend watching in letterbox - I had to when I had digital and a 4:3 telly - I couldn't stand watching anything widescreen chopped down to 4:3 centre cut)
Particularly bad shot on BBC London is their double-down-the-line shot with two plasmas either side of their presenter... I'm sure you only see the inner edges of the plasmas in 4:3..
Particularly bad shot on BBC London is their double-down-the-line shot with two plasmas either side of their presenter... I'm sure you only see the inner edges of the plasmas in 4:3..
KA
Whatever..... just as long as Hud remains on screen...
Katherine
Founding member
Quote:
noggin on 4:48 pm on Jan. 13, 2002
Err - if you're getting 'ook North' then you must be watching via digital on a 4:3 set in 4:3 mode... If you watch London in this mode you're in for a shock - some of their shots look terrible in 4:3...
Err - if you're getting 'ook North' then you must be watching via digital on a 4:3 set in 4:3 mode... If you watch London in this mode you're in for a shock - some of their shots look terrible in 4:3...
Whatever..... just as long as Hud remains on screen...
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noggin
Founding member
Most people chose to get their Sky Digital receiver with the Interactive discount of about £180, this is part of the Free Sky Box offer.
This means that Sky Active (was Open...) subsidise the cost of the Sky Digibox by £180, but when you sign for the installation only offer. When you sign for this subsidy, you legally sign a contract agreeing to keep your Skybox continuously connected to a phoneline for 12 months. This is in the interest of Sky Active (was Open...) as you need to be connected to the phoneline to make purchases via the Interactive services - it is also in Sky's interest in that the box is connected to the phone line, as this is the easiest way to deal with PPV films and events.
If you do chose the Sky subsidy you can disconnect your box from permanently being connected to the phone - thoug I think you are supposed to tell Sky that you are doing this to comply with the small print.
(NB If you have signed up for My Sky - a second digibox with a duplicate subscription for £12/month - you have to keep both boxes on the same phone line permanently as part of the contract. This is to ensure that the boxes do not move to different houses... They use caller ID technology to check the phone number the boxes dial from when they get the boxes to dial back to Sky, via an over the satellite request)
This means that Sky Active (was Open...) subsidise the cost of the Sky Digibox by £180, but when you sign for the installation only offer. When you sign for this subsidy, you legally sign a contract agreeing to keep your Skybox continuously connected to a phoneline for 12 months. This is in the interest of Sky Active (was Open...) as you need to be connected to the phoneline to make purchases via the Interactive services - it is also in Sky's interest in that the box is connected to the phone line, as this is the easiest way to deal with PPV films and events.
If you do chose the Sky subsidy you can disconnect your box from permanently being connected to the phone - thoug I think you are supposed to tell Sky that you are doing this to comply with the small print.
(NB If you have signed up for My Sky - a second digibox with a duplicate subscription for £12/month - you have to keep both boxes on the same phone line permanently as part of the contract. This is to ensure that the boxes do not move to different houses... They use caller ID technology to check the phone number the boxes dial from when they get the boxes to dial back to Sky, via an over the satellite request)
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william
Founding member
Indeed, just to add..
There's really nothing to worry about from having it plugged into the phone. I've had sky 4 months now and its never dialled out at all as far as I can see (nothing that's appeared on the bill anyway) - except a couple of times when I've used interactive services.
You do get warnings on the screen when you use games / interactive / sky news poll etc. - so just make sure you read the text before blindly pressing select, and know if you're about to be charged for something.
Its quite well behaved as well, as apparently it will not try to dial out if you're already using the phone.
To the best of my knowledge Sky never actually phone the box, and indeed have no real reason to given they already have a high-bandwidth connection into your home via the satellite.
William
There's really nothing to worry about from having it plugged into the phone. I've had sky 4 months now and its never dialled out at all as far as I can see (nothing that's appeared on the bill anyway) - except a couple of times when I've used interactive services.
You do get warnings on the screen when you use games / interactive / sky news poll etc. - so just make sure you read the text before blindly pressing select, and know if you're about to be charged for something.
Its quite well behaved as well, as apparently it will not try to dial out if you're already using the phone.
To the best of my knowledge Sky never actually phone the box, and indeed have no real reason to given they already have a high-bandwidth connection into your home via the satellite.
William
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noggin
Founding member
Yep - but Sky DO send a signal over the air every so often to get the box to dial out back to Sky. (It checks whether the line is in use prior to doing this) Sky check the caller ID of the box dialling in apparently. I've come in from odd shifts at work to find my box on-line dialling back. The connection is via an 0800 number apparently - hence it costs the owner nothing. I've never seen it appear on my bill.
However - when you accept the Sky Interactive subsidy you are legally agreeing to keep your box connected to the phone line for 12 months. If you aren't happy with this you don't have to agree to the subsidy - you can pay £180 extra. If you accept the subsidy, you have entered into a legally binding contract to do this and should probably do so if you don't want to break the law.
However - when you accept the Sky Interactive subsidy you are legally agreeing to keep your box connected to the phone line for 12 months. If you aren't happy with this you don't have to agree to the subsidy - you can pay £180 extra. If you accept the subsidy, you have entered into a legally binding contract to do this and should probably do so if you don't want to break the law.
IH
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