RK
I'd imagine the reason why NBC and MSNBC went this route was because their venues (regular businesses) were built/decorated like this where it would normally look like. They likely removed some of the original kitsch with NBC's kitsch. Glass tables and shiny metals would stick out like a sore thumb in a business like that and it did. On Today they had one of those thin silver bezel Samsung UHD-TVs for the weather on a metal cart and it clashed with the rest of the area. I'd also being willing to venture a guess that most of the shops in the business district or Main Street are decorated in a same manner.
Edit : The table the TV for weather was made out of the hood of a 1963 Studebaker Daytona with the paint stripped off.
I do find the NBC thing a bit patronising, like they have to be all folksy in the flyover states - as if a glass table or shiny metal prop might scare the locals.
I'd imagine the reason why NBC and MSNBC went this route was because their venues (regular businesses) were built/decorated like this where it would normally look like. They likely removed some of the original kitsch with NBC's kitsch. Glass tables and shiny metals would stick out like a sore thumb in a business like that and it did. On Today they had one of those thin silver bezel Samsung UHD-TVs for the weather on a metal cart and it clashed with the rest of the area. I'd also being willing to venture a guess that most of the shops in the business district or Main Street are decorated in a same manner.
Edit : The table the TV for weather was made out of the hood of a 1963 Studebaker Daytona with the paint stripped off.
Last edited by Rkolsen on 2 February 2016 9:35pm
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I still think that if they go to all the trouble of almost tearing the venue to bits for cameras and lighting, then why not just bring a branded backdrop and desk too - like the BBC does for Question Time:
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But then it would look like any generic studio-based set. When they retain at least some of the existing decor, it's immediately apparent that they are on the road, on Main Street somewhere. At their best, these "sets" convey some of that small town charm that can be so appealing in just the right quantities.
I still think that if they go to all the trouble of almost tearing the venue to bits for cameras and lighting, then why not just bring a branded backdrop and desk too - like the BBC does for Question Time:
But then it would look like any generic studio-based set. When they retain at least some of the existing decor, it's immediately apparent that they are on the road, on Main Street somewhere. At their best, these "sets" convey some of that small town charm that can be so appealing in just the right quantities.
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RK
But then it would look like any generic studio-based set. When they retain at least some of the existing decor, it's immediately apparent that they are on the road, on Main Street somewhere. At their best, these "sets" convey some of that small town charm that can be so appealing in just the right quantities.
Exactly, that's why I didn't think that NBC News was pandering to the locals with their Iowa sets.
For contrast this is what Bloomberg is broadcasting from in New Hampshire:
I don't regularly watch Bloomberg but I know they used at least one of the monitor towers (maybe it was a graphic) in Iowa when those two men appeared on MSNBC.
Edit : Here's the set in Iowa:
I imagine they have two sets. I don't think they could break down the one used in Iowa, ship it to New Hampshire and use it a day later.
I still think that if they go to all the trouble of almost tearing the venue to bits for cameras and lighting, then why not just bring a branded backdrop and desk too - like the BBC does for Question Time:
But then it would look like any generic studio-based set. When they retain at least some of the existing decor, it's immediately apparent that they are on the road, on Main Street somewhere. At their best, these "sets" convey some of that small town charm that can be so appealing in just the right quantities.
Exactly, that's why I didn't think that NBC News was pandering to the locals with their Iowa sets.
For contrast this is what Bloomberg is broadcasting from in New Hampshire:
WATCH LIVE: @jheil and @MarkHalperin have the latest from New Hampshire + #DemDebate preview https://t.co/LKCZtwH09D pic.twitter.com/0Xnua9yTQ9
— Bloomberg Politics (@bpolitics) February 4, 2016
I don't regularly watch Bloomberg but I know they used at least one of the monitor towers (maybe it was a graphic) in Iowa when those two men appeared on MSNBC.
Edit : Here's the set in Iowa:
.@DonaldJTrumpJr and @EricTrump say their dad is more blue-collar than you think https://t.co/K5uLJPfcNN #IACaucus pic.twitter.com/U61SBQgF0m
— Bloomberg Politics (@bpolitics) February 2, 2016
I imagine they have two sets. I don't think they could break down the one used in Iowa, ship it to New Hampshire and use it a day later.
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I couldn't find an appropriate thread for this - I have just witnessed a massive bugger-up of the introduction to the latest ABC News GOP Debate.
He appeared not to hear his introduction - despite several prompts to go on-stage, he stayed put as other candidates walked past him. Trump joined him standing there at one point, and the kerfuffle ended with them almost forgetting to introduce John Kasich.
On other presentation notes, the title slide actually looks quite modern - no 3D, nice and clean. I quite like it.
EDIT: Here's a video:
Did Carson just almost say "nah" to going onstage for this #GOPDebate ? pic.twitter.com/mm9seTDRAP
— GIF The News (@NowThisGIF) February 7, 2016
He appeared not to hear his introduction - despite several prompts to go on-stage, he stayed put as other candidates walked past him. Trump joined him standing there at one point, and the kerfuffle ended with them almost forgetting to introduce John Kasich.
On other presentation notes, the title slide actually looks quite modern - no 3D, nice and clean. I quite like it.
EDIT: Here's a video:
Here's that botched #GOPDebate introduction in all its gloryhttps://t.co/KOBE3dpeGv
— Mashable (@mashable) February 7, 2016
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I'm not particularly fascistic about these things, but there is a US election thread that would seem perfectly appropriate for this...
http://www.tvforum.co.uk/thenewsroom/presidential-election-2016-41390/
http://www.tvforum.co.uk/thenewsroom/presidential-election-2016-41390/
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I knew there was a current thread! I'm not at my sharpest at 1:25am, clearly.
I'm not particularly fascistic about these things, but there is a US election thread that would seem perfectly appropriate for this...
http://www.tvforum.co.uk/thenewsroom/presidential-election-2016-41390/
http://www.tvforum.co.uk/thenewsroom/presidential-election-2016-41390/
I knew there was a current thread! I'm not at my sharpest at 1:25am, clearly.
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Forgoing the cheesy home-ly diner sets and antique shop look, NBC News whipped this out.
NBC News modern looking set-up for the New Hampshire primary. The desk is a collapse-able model. Neatly fits in a case and the graphics can be changed. Dont know why they didnt use some more subtle. But there ya go. (THough some MSNBC programs are using a noisy bar.)
http://www.newscaststudio.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/ncs_nbc-nh_004.jpg
http://www.newscaststudio.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/ncs_nbc-nh_006.jpg
Newscaststudio.
NBC News modern looking set-up for the New Hampshire primary. The desk is a collapse-able model. Neatly fits in a case and the graphics can be changed. Dont know why they didnt use some more subtle. But there ya go. (THough some MSNBC programs are using a noisy bar.)
http://www.newscaststudio.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/ncs_nbc-nh_004.jpg
http://www.newscaststudio.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/ncs_nbc-nh_006.jpg
Newscaststudio.
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I'm amazed at the scale here of their setup. I'm guessing some of the space is used for their affiliates should they decide to report from the first primary. I believe they used this setup during the 2012 elections. I'm not sure if it was used in 2014.
I think that V shaped desk originally came from their West Capitol Hill Studios.
They replaced it with the desk that has appeared in their main MSNBC studio election coverage. The desk has two different graphics one showing the NBC News logo, the other with an MSNBC and their NH Primary version of their star logo. I'm thinking that this is a graphic because the LED tiles that appear on the desk when it's in the studio the resolution is good but not this good.
Edit : For comparison here are some photos from ClickSpring Design showing said desk with the LED tile front.
Edit #2 : There was roughly a 30 minute break between the last Today show hit at 8:25 from Manchester and the start of the 9AM hour on MSNBC to change some of the set and the graphic on the desk.
It appears they also have an insert studio of sorts against a window showing the snowy street with kids playing in the background and someone brings along what they described as a beef cattle to hang out with the kids in the snow. .
Forgoing the cheesy home-ly diner sets and antique shop look, NBC News whipped this out.
NBC News modern looking set-up for the New Hampshire primary. The desk is a collapse-able model. Neatly fits in a case and the graphics can be changed. Dont know why they didnt use some more subtle. But there ya go. (THough some MSNBC programs are using a noisy bar.)
Newscaststudio.
NBC News modern looking set-up for the New Hampshire primary. The desk is a collapse-able model. Neatly fits in a case and the graphics can be changed. Dont know why they didnt use some more subtle. But there ya go. (THough some MSNBC programs are using a noisy bar.)
Newscaststudio.
I'm amazed at the scale here of their setup. I'm guessing some of the space is used for their affiliates should they decide to report from the first primary. I believe they used this setup during the 2012 elections. I'm not sure if it was used in 2014.
I think that V shaped desk originally came from their West Capitol Hill Studios.
They replaced it with the desk that has appeared in their main MSNBC studio election coverage. The desk has two different graphics one showing the NBC News logo, the other with an MSNBC and their NH Primary version of their star logo. I'm thinking that this is a graphic because the LED tiles that appear on the desk when it's in the studio the resolution is good but not this good.
New Hampshire votes today, and @SavannahGuthrie is there! #NHPrimary pic.twitter.com/xFJDaFZUeO
— TODAY (@TODAYshow) February 9, 2016
Edit : For comparison here are some photos from ClickSpring Design showing said desk with the LED tile front.
Edit #2 : There was roughly a 30 minute break between the last Today show hit at 8:25 from Manchester and the start of the 9AM hour on MSNBC to change some of the set and the graphic on the desk.
It appears they also have an insert studio of sorts against a window showing the snowy street with kids playing in the background and someone brings along what they described as a beef cattle to hang out with the kids in the snow. .
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