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ITV News Anglia and Look East (November 2009)

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MA
Markymark
Mike W posted:
Worzel posted:
Just revisiting this topic. Does anyone know if any changes are afoot for the Look East Norwich studio/ gallery this year? The set looks a complete mess, the rear projection screens are completely washed out/dirty making the weather look awful, the lighting is atrocious and the picture quality in recent months has become terribly distorted (bit like watching an old analogue TV channel that isn't tuned in properly). Kit's clearly failing and must be on its last legs.

This year, AFAIK - no. None of the existing English Regions galleries will have their apps updated, they might see monitor stacks replaced but nothing as far as cameras, VMs, sound desks, graphics are going to be updated.
There is (and has been for some time) a similar project to ViLoR being built by English Regions technology that will look to have a similar opt system to ITV and remote apparatus (not everything mind) to reduce overheads across the UK but that's not planned for the next few years. It's also one way they are looking to get the regions onto BBC One HD.


Yes, I've heard the same. There might be the start of an RFI tender process this summer ?
NG
noggin Founding member
Mike W posted:
Worzel posted:
Just revisiting this topic. Does anyone know if any changes are afoot for the Look East Norwich studio/ gallery this year? The set looks a complete mess, the rear projection screens are completely washed out/dirty making the weather look awful, the lighting is atrocious and the picture quality in recent months has become terribly distorted (bit like watching an old analogue TV channel that isn't tuned in properly). Kit's clearly failing and must be on its last legs.

This year, AFAIK - no. None of the existing English Regions galleries will have their apps updated, they might see monitor stacks replaced but nothing as far as cameras, VMs, sound desks, graphics are going to be updated.
There is (and has been for some time) a similar project to ViLoR being built by English Regions technology that will look to have a similar opt system to ITV and remote apparatus (not everything mind) to reduce overheads across the UK but that's not planned for the next few years. It's also one way they are looking to get the regions onto BBC One HD.


Presumably cameras could be changed (as some have already) in advance of any new infrastructure - as even if they go for an IP VilorTV approach They will be able to integrate Sony or GVG CCUs into this.

(Interesting to see the new Black Magic Ursa Mini studio camera with SMPTE cable adaptors uses 10Gigabit Ethernet over SMPTE by the look of it - and has a currently disabled 10GbE socket on the back of the CCU. A camera system like that could be a very neat approach for IP implementation (and at around US$10k per camera channel it's pretty cheap...). Not saying the BBC will do that - but whatever they do needs to be cost effective...
MI
m_in_m
Markymark posted:
Mike W posted:
Worzel posted:
Just revisiting this topic. Does anyone know if any changes are afoot for the Look East Norwich studio/ gallery this year? The set looks a complete mess, the rear projection screens are completely washed out/dirty making the weather look awful, the lighting is atrocious and the picture quality in recent months has become terribly distorted (bit like watching an old analogue TV channel that isn't tuned in properly). Kit's clearly failing and must be on its last legs.

This year, AFAIK - no. None of the existing English Regions galleries will have their apps updated, they might see monitor stacks replaced but nothing as far as cameras, VMs, sound desks, graphics are going to be updated.
There is (and has been for some time) a similar project to ViLoR being built by English Regions technology that will look to have a similar opt system to ITV and remote apparatus (not everything mind) to reduce overheads across the UK but that's not planned for the next few years. It's also one way they are looking to get the regions onto BBC One HD.


Yes, I've heard the same. There might be the start of an RFI tender process this summer ?


Does this mean that it looks like the project could make commercial sense or is this part of the process in making that decision? The bandwidth required to achieve this is going to be considerable. Feeding cameras back to the datacenters and then also feeding video back to in studio displays.
NG
noggin Founding member
m_in_m posted:

Does this mean that it looks like the project could make commercial sense or is this part of the process in making that decision? The bandwidth required to achieve this is going to be considerable. Feeding cameras back to the datacenters and then also feeding video back to in studio displays.


It means they are considering a tender. An RFI is a Request for Information, which is the first stage of a procurement. It's a way of asking potential solution providers to provide information that then lets you better formulate an RFQ - Request for Quotation, where you ask people to quote in a more specific way.

Yep - the bandwidth is significant, but is not now a barrier. The entire BBC internal video, audio and broadcast data network connectivity between regional/national/network centres is all IP now (provided by BT), as is ITV's. Getting 40Gb/s or 100Gb/s circuits is now relatively straightforward, so it is looking feasible. Remote production is a very real part of life in some countries. (BT can provide 20 HD-SDI uncompressed circuits from a Premiere League ground should you want that)

(Sweden is now doing big multi camera music and sport shows with the cameras and (and in some cases the Vision mixer control panel, director, VM and PA) on-site, but using the EVS, Graphics, Vision Mixer crate, sound desk etc. back at their main Television Centre. I think they use a pair of 20Gb/s fibre connections for this)

However I'm not sure whether we'll see any movement on this before the BBC Wales HQ move - which is a very big, all-IP (nearly all...) project...
MA
Markymark
noggin posted:


Yep - the bandwidth is significant, but is not now a barrier. The entire BBC internal video, audio and broadcast data network connectivity between regional/national/network centres is all IP now (provided by BT), as is ITV's. Getting 40Gb/s or 100Gb/s circuits is now relatively straightforward, so it is looking feasible. Remote production is a very real part of life in some countries. (BT can provide 20 HD-SDI uncompressed circuits from a Premiere League ground should you want that)

(Sweden is now doing big multi camera music and sport shows with the cameras and (and in some cases the Vision mixer control panel, director, VM and PA) on-site, but using the EVS, Graphics, Vision Mixer crate, sound desk etc. back at their main Television Centre. I think they use a pair of 20Gb/s fibre connections for this)
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http://www.mediaandbroadcast.bt.com/wp-content/uploads/PLP-Broadcast-Tech-article_Feb17.pdf
NG
noggin Founding member
Markymark posted:
noggin posted:


Yep - the bandwidth is significant, but is not now a barrier. The entire BBC internal video, audio and broadcast data network connectivity between regional/national/network centres is all IP now (provided by BT), as is ITV's. Getting 40Gb/s or 100Gb/s circuits is now relatively straightforward, so it is looking feasible. Remote production is a very real part of life in some countries. (BT can provide 20 HD-SDI uncompressed circuits from a Premiere League ground should you want that)

(Sweden is now doing big multi camera music and sport shows with the cameras and (and in some cases the Vision mixer control panel, director, VM and PA) on-site, but using the EVS, Graphics, Vision Mixer crate, sound desk etc. back at their main Television Centre. I think they use a pair of 20Gb/s fibre connections for this)
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http://www.mediaandbroadcast.bt.com/wp-content/uploads/PLP-Broadcast-Tech-article_Feb17.pdf


Yep - bandwidth and connectivity have ceased to be the barriers they were until pretty recently. Lots of different remote production options are now feasible. (The SVT set-up in Sweden can have the director and vision mixer on-site, with the mixer top remotely networked back to the centralised crate, and multviewer, PGM and PST feeds sent back to the OB site.)
LL
London Lite Founding member
Is there a sub-opt split of Good Morning Anglia during GMB? Noticed this morning on the 6.10am bulletin that all the stories were from Norfolk, Suffolk and Essex and the weather was for the East opt on ITV Anglia HD.
WA
watchingtv
Full split for the West with Janine in Cambridge. Celebrating 100years with Richard Westcott at Papworth for the programme. Alina Jenkins had a standard weather forecast (presumably recorded), instead of the weather for the weekahead (unless that has been dropped?)
MW
Mike W
watchingtv posted:
Full split for the West with Janine in Cambridge. Celebrating 100years with Richard Westcott at Papworth for the programme. Alina Jenkins had a standard weather forecast (presumably recorded), instead of the weather for the weekahead (unless that has been dropped?)

100 years of what?
MI
m_in_m
Mike W posted:
watchingtv posted:
Full split for the West with Janine in Cambridge. Celebrating 100years with Richard Westcott at Papworth for the programme. Alina Jenkins had a standard weather forecast (presumably recorded), instead of the weather for the weekahead (unless that has been dropped?)

100 years of what?

100 years of Papworth Hospital. The recorded package ran on the East edition.

Alina did the weather for east as well and it wasn't branded as weather for the week ahead but I'm sure last week's was.

15 days later

WO
Worzel
Look East, come on now, seriously?

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ST
South Today
Amelia in Cambridge tonight which is a rarity these days. Over in the East, Stewart in the studio and Susie live outside Norwich station in the freezing cold.

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