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Rolling News
I have no recollection of Breakfast News in the 90s as I strictly grew up in an ITV household so had the delights of Eamonn and Anthea on the telly every morning. The only memory I have of 1990s BBC News is the theme tune to the Nine scaring me when it was on one night!
It was indeed a very cold look for a morning news programme, but I notice the blue in the virtual studio seemed to start off light and get darker as the day went on. Starting off light (with a touch of orange) at 6am for Breakfast News, but very dark by 9pm at night.
GE
thegeek Founding member
Getting a fit of the giggles when you’re trying to read a serious headline must be a nightmare. Jon did well to take over.

Somewhere around the same time, there was the famous shot of Soapy being punched live on air (twice) by Babita Sharma, who was then a Business Correspondent.

And, Maryam Moshiri putting him firmly in his place when he was dawdling over a topic rather than reading the next link. All in good humour, I hasten to add.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCc89F21nFI
(Emily quickly changing tone after the second punch. Wonder if someone in her ear told her to?)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkfmRrZMZ9I

My main takeaway from this is how much better N8 looks than N6. How did we put up with the fake newsroom background for so long?
RN
Rolling News
Getting a fit of the giggles when you’re trying to read a serious headline must be a nightmare. Jon did well to take over.

Somewhere around the same time, there was the famous shot of Soapy being punched live on air (twice) by Babita Sharma, who was then a Business Correspondent.

And, Maryam Moshiri putting him firmly in his place when he was dawdling over a topic rather than reading the next link. All in good humour, I hasten to add.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCc89F21nFI
(Emily quickly changing tone after the second punch. Wonder if someone in her ear told her to?)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkfmRrZMZ9I

My main takeaway from this is how much better N8 looks than N6. How did we put up with the fake newsroom background for so long?

It was fine(ish) for the bulletins but for a rolling news channel it was lifeless. I know they had no choice to use N6 as they had to close a studio due to cost savings but they could have used a backdrop which didn't look like they were having a power cut, although to be fair there was an improvement when they added a tint of blue.
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CM
cmthwtv
I remember the launch of the main channel at NBH, and the improvement was just so noticeable instantly. It came alive so suddenly - and 7 years later (imo) E looks good as new.
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itsrobert Founding member
Breakfast News of 1997 to 2000 used the same studio and general set of Newsnight, and they somehow managed to create a morning/breakfast time version of the Newsnight set for the programme, and it worked well. Better than the void of icy cold blue that was the 1993-1997 virtual Breakfast News set.


I've got some footage showing how they did that transition in TC7, immediately following an edition of Newsnight. You can see how they change the background from Newsnight to Breakfast News by way of blinds and curtains! Apologies, the picture jumps around a bit but you get the gist.



Another good clip here. BBC News & Sport from 1989. If you look at about 8 minutes in, you can see a very young Huw Edwards reporting!



93-97 virtual Breakfast set: I know this sounds naff, but my only real memory of that era was the presenters’ names being shown over their shoulder in the virtual plaque.

I thought that was a rather good idea and why not do it for the rest of the bulletins.

And, sadly, apart from that, I can’t remember anything else distinct about that particular rendition of the brand. Which, I guess, goes some way to verify what you’ve said above.

A “void of icy cold blue”.

It wasn’t very “morning toasty” at all, was it!


The only minor difference I can remember is that it was a slightly more pink colour than blue. It was slightly warmer than the One/Six set but only just. Probably my favourite version of that set was as it appeared on the Nine. That was moody and sublime. But it was totally unsuited to Breakfast News.
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thegeek Founding member
I really liked that era of Breakfast News.
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What strikes me about the BBC News 24 clip is how much of a retrograde step it was for them (and BBC World) to adopt the red and beige designs and David Lowe music. The flags presentation was rich, colourful and optimistic.

The one thing I never liked about that era of Breakfast News was the slightly dischordian way the theme tune resolves itself. It's not a very relaxing way to start the day!

I do agree with you on the News 24 front. At the time we had a dual LNB analogue satellite setup, so I could watch World but my only exposure to News 24 was if I was up late enough, and really liked the style - it was clearly BBC, but a bit more laid back and modern, and it's a shame they didn't develop it further.

Were the N24 graphics overnight the same as the daytime ones, save for the '24' disappearing on simulcast bits? They weren't quite the same as World at the time.

A few other thoughts from spinning through that video:
The non-countdown countdown was a good interstitial, not quite as urgent and shouty as what replaced it, but still a decent gap-filller, and I like the way it rolled straight in to the title sequence. The music really is 👌 (even if it does sound like a crowd cheering at the end)

I'm sure I've said before (probably even in this thread) that the flags motifs on the glass in the newsroom stayed there till 2013.
CM
cmthwtv
Breakfast News of 1997 to 2000 used the same studio and general set of Newsnight, and they somehow managed to create a morning/breakfast time version of the Newsnight set for the programme, and it worked well. Better than the void of icy cold blue that was the 1993-1997 virtual Breakfast News set.


I've got some footage showing how they did that transition in TC7, immediately following an edition of Newsnight. You can see how they change the background from Newsnight to Breakfast News by way of blinds and curtains! Apologies, the picture jumps around a bit but you get the gist.



Another good clip here. BBC News & Sport from 1989. If you look at about 8 minutes in, you can see a very young Huw Edwards reporting!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RiUsSI-OJw

93-97 virtual Breakfast set: I know this sounds naff, but my only real memory of that era was the presenters’ names being shown over their shoulder in the virtual plaque.

I thought that was a rather good idea and why not do it for the rest of the bulletins.

And, sadly, apart from that, I can’t remember anything else distinct about that particular rendition of the brand. Which, I guess, goes some way to verify what you’ve said above.

A “void of icy cold blue”.

It wasn’t very “morning toasty” at all, was it!


The only minor difference I can remember is that it was a slightly more pink colour than blue. It was slightly warmer than the One/Six set but only just. Probably my favourite version of that set was as it appeared on the Nine. That was moody and sublime. But it was totally unsuited to Breakfast News.


Thst has got to be the only video on the internet of a non-grey Huw!
RN
Rolling News
A rare clip of Michael Buerk presenting News 24 with Gavin Esler in November 2001:

Ian of old and Anglialad gave kudos
CM
cmthwtv
And Jane Hill and Huw Edwards together - and to my knowledge one of the few time’s Huw has actually been introduced in a bulletin, rather than “Today at .. or Tonight at”

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harshy Founding member
That N8 set looks huge though then they rotated it and it looked cramped. Does anyone know why they rotated it?
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deejay
Great find, Rob. I didn’t know Norman Smith was around back then. Nice to see Robin Oakley too. Anyone know the name of the South Today insert presenter?

Having a quick scan through that clip, the format and studio layout was actually quite nice. Content pacy yet in depth.

And where is Paul Wood these days?


The South Today presenter is Pauline Brandt
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Brekkie

BBC Scotland's equivalent had a slightly less traditional approach to its titles.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CKlpvlmw90

Are we just not mentioning that - WTF were they thinking?
BBCWalesToday and Richard gave kudos

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