RO
I remember reading about that as well. I think at the end he said to weatherman Bob Johnson "Isn't it great to be able to say that (Tyne Tees) again?"
SC
I believe it was February 1998 when Tyne Tees was brought by back Granada. I don't think there was ever an official announcement about the C3NE brand ending, altough as soon as Granada bought Yorkshire Tyne Tees in 1997, all Channel 3 branding from Yorkshire got dropped very quickly.
I think it was early March 1998, rather than February.
When did the Channel 3 North East official end? and was any announcements made about it ?
I believe it was February 1998 when Tyne Tees was brought by back Granada. I don't think there was ever an official announcement about the C3NE brand ending, altough as soon as Granada bought Yorkshire Tyne Tees in 1997, all Channel 3 branding from Yorkshire got dropped very quickly.
I think it was early March 1998, rather than February.
:-(
A former member
The date I have for this: 9 March 1998 but, it seems Yorkshire had drop its by already ire February.
RO
The thing is, during this whole period, didn't the City Road studios have "TYNE TEES TELEVISION" on them, making the c3ne ident more pointless?
JO
The whole exercise was pointless and half-baked the moment Yorkshire refused to fully co-operate (and then Granada bought out YTTTV before the fckstorm developed further, eg extended to building signage).
I remember the aforementioned Mike and Bob conversation quite vividly, wonder if there was a video online at some point?
I remember the aforementioned Mike and Bob conversation quite vividly, wonder if there was a video online at some point?
MA
Maaixuew
Similarly unused LWT and TTTV idents from the same Twitter user:
By the way, does anybody know what the whole idea behind G-wizz.net was? I've seen mentions of it on some of the idents from YTV and Granada, but don't quite know what it stood for and why it was better than an ITV.com?
By the way, does anybody know what the whole idea behind G-wizz.net was? I've seen mentions of it on some of the idents from YTV and Granada, but don't quite know what it stood for and why it was better than an ITV.com?
KE
G-wizz.net was basically an internet venture and internet service provider set up by Granada, as an online portal for all its online content.
There's a bit of info here:
http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/spl/aberdeen/g-wizz-granada-soaps-hit-the-net-1.287766
http://www.theguardian.com/media/2001/mar/26/broadcasting.newmedia
By the way, does anybody know what the whole idea behind G-wizz.net was? I've seen mentions of it on some of the idents from YTV and Granada, but don't quite know what it stood for and why it was better than an ITV.com?
G-wizz.net was basically an internet venture and internet service provider set up by Granada, as an online portal for all its online content.
There's a bit of info here:
http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/spl/aberdeen/g-wizz-granada-soaps-hit-the-net-1.287766
http://www.theguardian.com/media/2001/mar/26/broadcasting.newmedia
CW
Undoubtedly it made it more pointless, but of course the C3NE branding was only used inside the region, network Tyne Tees programmes were still credited as such (although without the TTTV logo), and programming within the region was 'A Tyne Tees Television Production for Channel 3 North East', they never quite managed to kill it off.
Probably just an example of early internet. There was an itv.co.uk before itv.com but it had bugger all content on it, g-wizz.net/<insertstationname> was simply Granada's answer to www.carlton.com/tv - which was apparently the place to be where I lived, and of course the UNM stations all had individual URLs - I have a 2000 HTV pen plugging www.htvwest.com for all it was worth. Around the same time every programming strand and major programme also had it's own TLD too - there was www.itv-football.com, www.itv-f1.com, www.coronationstreet.co.uk, www.crossroadshotel.com etc etc (may be some slightly errors in the actual URLs quoted there, but you get the point). It was all a mess, finally it all got rationalised into itv.com in late 2001 which at last made everything accessible and in one place, arguably one of the better things to come out of all the mergers and debranding which went on during those years.
What I didn't get though is that whilst the websites were very quickly merged into itv.com, email addresses took forever and a day to bring in - Westcountry News were still quoting @westcountry.co.uk email until only a couple of years before their demise, and networked early morning programmes likes Trisha were still quoting @angliatv.com email addresses across the network even after the debranding of October 2002.
Considering how desperate they seemed at the time to plug the single ITV idea in order to allow Carlton and Granada to merge, allowing email TLD's to use the regional station names for so long after would seem to be a bit of a hole in the front they were trying to put up.
cwathen
Founding member
Quote:
The thing is, during this whole period, didn't the City Road studios have "TYNE TEES TELEVISION" on them, making the c3ne ident more pointless?
Undoubtedly it made it more pointless, but of course the C3NE branding was only used inside the region, network Tyne Tees programmes were still credited as such (although without the TTTV logo), and programming within the region was 'A Tyne Tees Television Production for Channel 3 North East', they never quite managed to kill it off.
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By the way, does anybody know what the whole idea behind G-wizz.net was? I've seen mentions of it on some of the idents from YTV and Granada, but don't quite know what it stood for and why it was better than an ITV.com?
Probably just an example of early internet. There was an itv.co.uk before itv.com but it had bugger all content on it, g-wizz.net/<insertstationname> was simply Granada's answer to www.carlton.com/tv - which was apparently the place to be where I lived, and of course the UNM stations all had individual URLs - I have a 2000 HTV pen plugging www.htvwest.com for all it was worth. Around the same time every programming strand and major programme also had it's own TLD too - there was www.itv-football.com, www.itv-f1.com, www.coronationstreet.co.uk, www.crossroadshotel.com etc etc (may be some slightly errors in the actual URLs quoted there, but you get the point). It was all a mess, finally it all got rationalised into itv.com in late 2001 which at last made everything accessible and in one place, arguably one of the better things to come out of all the mergers and debranding which went on during those years.
What I didn't get though is that whilst the websites were very quickly merged into itv.com, email addresses took forever and a day to bring in - Westcountry News were still quoting @westcountry.co.uk email until only a couple of years before their demise, and networked early morning programmes likes Trisha were still quoting @angliatv.com email addresses across the network even after the debranding of October 2002.
Considering how desperate they seemed at the time to plug the single ITV idea in order to allow Carlton and Granada to merge, allowing email TLD's to use the regional station names for so long after would seem to be a bit of a hole in the front they were trying to put up.
PE
Pete
Founding member
don't forget the infamous relaunch of tynetees.tv
one of the big issues was that whilst the BBC and C4 had a nice simple bbc.co.uk/show channel.com/show structure the itv one was often in the format www.itv-coronationstreet.co.uk with others being .com, others missing the hyphen, and generally a great big stinking mess. itv.com, shoddy as it was initially, was a godsend for simplicity.
one of the big issues was that whilst the BBC and C4 had a nice simple bbc.co.uk/show channel.com/show structure the itv one was often in the format www.itv-coronationstreet.co.uk with others being .com, others missing the hyphen, and generally a great big stinking mess. itv.com, shoddy as it was initially, was a godsend for simplicity.
IS
Isonstine
Founding member
Didn't Granada get into hot water with the then ITC over g-wizz.net and the fact this particular website address was on trailers and idents - effectively acting as a product placement/promotion for another Granada commercial venture?
There's a bit more about the closure of the service in the following article http://www.theguardian.com/media/2001/mar/26/broadcasting.newmedia - highlighting some of the more ridiculous URLs that were floating around at the time.
There's a bit more about the closure of the service in the following article http://www.theguardian.com/media/2001/mar/26/broadcasting.newmedia - highlighting some of the more ridiculous URLs that were floating around at the time.
VM
I think that was the reason for the separate region addresses in the first places, they couldn't use g-wizz.net on the idents anymore so they used individual addresses for each region. Then when ITV.com launched they were replaced with that annoying animating logo in the bottom centre of the screen.
I remember CITV also used to have its own TLD, www.citv.co.uk, and when ITV.com launched they started promoting itv.com/citv. But that address still went to citv.co.uk for many, many years later, in fact I think it only disappeared a couple of years ago when they closed the main CITV site and replaced it with a basic ITV Player page (until they gave it its own proper page with the 2013 relaunch). I think it lasted into the previous branding with the big yellow C.
Didn't Granada get into hot water with the then ITC over g-wizz.net and the fact this particular website address was on trailers and idents - effectively acting as a product placement/promotion for another Granada commercial venture?
There's a bit more about the closure of the service in the following article http://www.theguardian.com/media/2001/mar/26/broadcasting.newmedia - highlighting some of the more ridiculous URLs that were floating around at the time.
There's a bit more about the closure of the service in the following article http://www.theguardian.com/media/2001/mar/26/broadcasting.newmedia - highlighting some of the more ridiculous URLs that were floating around at the time.
I think that was the reason for the separate region addresses in the first places, they couldn't use g-wizz.net on the idents anymore so they used individual addresses for each region. Then when ITV.com launched they were replaced with that annoying animating logo in the bottom centre of the screen.
I remember CITV also used to have its own TLD, www.citv.co.uk, and when ITV.com launched they started promoting itv.com/citv. But that address still went to citv.co.uk for many, many years later, in fact I think it only disappeared a couple of years ago when they closed the main CITV site and replaced it with a basic ITV Player page (until they gave it its own proper page with the 2013 relaunch). I think it lasted into the previous branding with the big yellow C.