BBC912 on 11:05 pm on Mar. 28, 2002
10:45 English 20
(The Angel Of The North)
Nice to see English 20!
Nah, that's one of the most rubbish ones. It's got people in it! :
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aztec west
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bleh on 11:10 pm on Mar. 28, 2002
For a clock before the news, how about having dancers holding real, normal office-like clocks that are facing the camera, the camera then zooms up on one for the final few seconds?
IMO that would be a good idea.
Unfortunately I can't see BBC1 doing that.
It'll be strange if BBC1 links into the 6 o'clock news without a clock though...
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stegranadaitv1
Well BBC One will be like other terrestrial channels. They all have no clocks. (Well execpt S4C)
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benjiman
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stegranadaitv1 on 11:25 pm on Mar. 28, 2002
Well BBC One will be like other terrestrial channels. They all have no clocks. (Well execpt S4C)
I didn't know S4C had a clock?
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Larry Scutta
The Question Time thing is mainly to do with it being made by News whose tape standard is Beta SP and not the digital formats used by the rest. I suspect there is an arc somewhere in the way as well.
S4C has a clock, but it's only before the 7:30pm news programme - and as it's BBC News I've a feeling that if the clock stops being used before BBC1 News then they might stop one before S4C's news too.
The last ever announcement made over the clock in the south. But thats to a great screensaver by MrTomServo, it will live on.
That's brilliant - but how do you get it to run as a screen saver? I can only get it as a little box you open yourself. I'd really like this as a screensaver
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BBC912
11:45 Welsh 1
(Snowdon)
Another long version of a balloon mainly because the announcer has to mention tonight's schedule changes. I'm off to bed people, my video timer will do the rest hopefully, it had best not go wrong and I look foward to seeing what balloon was shown last in the morning! Goodnite!
benjiman on 10:15 pm on Mar. 28, 2002
I'm not going to start a whole new thread about it so I'll just post this here - Why do the Question Time trailers always look so bad? they look like they've been made by playing them on a TV and filming the TV screen! The BBC ONE logo is always off centre and slightly wonky, and the picture quality is rubbish. Did anyone see the one shown just now before the last ever clock - looked like it was very hastily put together, with David Dimbleby walking around a random place in London (not sure where), and at the end he started to talk to someone else off-camera because the trailer was played for too long!
(Edited by benjiman at 10:16 pm on Mar. 28, 2002)
Question Time is produced in a very strange way. It is an independent production for BBC Political programmes, who are based in Westminster. It is normally an OB or studio show from a location in the UK. The OB is fed to the nearest BBC region, then to TV Centre. It is then fed to BBC Westminster at Millbank where it is recorded (for possible editing) and then played out back to BBC TVC Presentation on transmission. There are so many PAL code/decodes, compressed links and generations of analogue Beta SP (if it were recorded at TV Centre it would be on Digibeta... and cost much more to edit...) Currently it looks pretty awful...
The trail is done the same way - not played out from a machine/server at Pres in TVC but from Beta SP at Westminster live into Pres - the trail graphics are burnt-in at the OB/Studio site originating - hence the variable quality in their style, and dubious nature of the timing - Pres often have not seen much of the trail before playing it out... Much the same could be said for the programme...
In fact recently I believe a trail was played out instead of the programme... Much egg on face for all concerned.
S4C has a clock, but it's only before the 7:30pm news programme - and as it's BBC News I've a feeling that if the clock stops being used before BBC1 News then they might stop one before S4C's news too.
Why? The beeb provide S4C's news but they have nothing else to do with S4C - if S4C pres want to run a clock then they will.
It's no different to the controller of BBC2 scrapping the BBC2 clock a few years ago whilst BBC1 has retained it's clock right up until today - the clock will stay on S4C until they decide to scrap it.
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Yes the balloons are getting played for slightly longer tonight which is nice of BBC ONE. I expect there are a few announcers that will miss them. A pity
I assume tomorrow they'll let the new idents run for longer so you can get a good look at them. I hope they do it better than when BBC2 launched new idents in November tho - then they left so little time for the actual announcement that they all crashed into the programme (along with the ident - it was a very mushy almost GMG north like transition on that first day).
JB on 11:47 pm on Mar. 28, 2002
S4C has a clock, but it's only before the 7:30pm news programme - and as it's BBC News I've a feeling that if the clock stops being used before BBC1 News then they might stop one before S4C's news too.
S4C don't just use their clock for the 1930hrs bulletin but EVERY news bulletin including the weekend ones, I've seen the clock at many differnt times and not all on the hour (2120hrs is an example)
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