NE
Well, it wasn't so much an explanation as it was a transcript...
Hopefully a viewer out there managed to capture it for posterity!
I was going to do a transcript like you but i could remember the general jist , not word for word!!
I changed my above post because when somethink like this has happened before , by the time I've submitted it , about 5 people have written! BBCNicky - you explained it much better than me!! 
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Well, it wasn't so much an explanation as it was a transcript...
Hopefully a viewer out there managed to capture it for posterity!
I was going to do a transcript like you but i could remember the general jist , not word for word!!
NE
no don't think so , mabye with the launch of the new news website they will start too. - I'm guessing you wanted to see the "phone joke" - I thought someone might have put it on youtube by now !!
Do ITV still not put the news bulletins on the ITV Player (assuming anyone can get it to work?)
no don't think so , mabye with the launch of the new news website they will start too. - I'm guessing you wanted to see the "phone joke" - I thought someone might have put it on youtube by now !!
NE
yeah I saw a quick flash of that too.
Did anyone else see the 2-second still at the end of Nina Nannar's report? It had something like "Audio Only" in the centre of the screen and the "ITN News" logo was at the bottom of the screen.
yeah I saw a quick flash of that too.
NI
Anyone else see the terrible start to Keir Simmons' report on the social services? Images of Victoria Climbie, Baby Peter etc etc with "Twinkle, Twinkle, Little Star" music being played underneath. Statistics from an OFSTED report were interspersed with these pictures. I thought they'd accidentally played a PIF or NSPCC campaign or something. 
After a few days without badly designed graphics, they've reappeared on tonight's programme. If it is as a result of Avid technology, can't they get the graphics team to create some decent looking templates of some kind (that may be a bit difficult considering the seemingly unnoticed crapness of the current NaT aston) and let reporters choose from those? I would assume this can be done.
I also dislike the mixture of overly-dramatic and generally unprofessional reports (and by that I'm referring to Simmons' report and those reports that utilise language just that bit too sensationalist) and decent, professional, well put together reports (Martin Geissler's report from South Africa being one example, all Bill Neely's reports being other examples). This is why people refuse to tune into ITV News - it's almost as if they have had a gradual 'formality to fluff' approach to bulletins this decade. They're capable of better and I don't know why they've decided to dumb down so much over the past few years. I guess I was speaking too soon when I said that they were getting back on track to proper news coverage after a rough few years appearing as if they were the TV equivalent of the Daily Star.
(LOL - apologies if I sound miserable. Ill at the moment - no doubt strengthening my anger.)
After a few days without badly designed graphics, they've reappeared on tonight's programme. If it is as a result of Avid technology, can't they get the graphics team to create some decent looking templates of some kind (that may be a bit difficult considering the seemingly unnoticed crapness of the current NaT aston) and let reporters choose from those? I would assume this can be done.
I also dislike the mixture of overly-dramatic and generally unprofessional reports (and by that I'm referring to Simmons' report and those reports that utilise language just that bit too sensationalist) and decent, professional, well put together reports (Martin Geissler's report from South Africa being one example, all Bill Neely's reports being other examples). This is why people refuse to tune into ITV News - it's almost as if they have had a gradual 'formality to fluff' approach to bulletins this decade. They're capable of better and I don't know why they've decided to dumb down so much over the past few years. I guess I was speaking too soon when I said that they were getting back on track to proper news coverage after a rough few years appearing as if they were the TV equivalent of the Daily Star.
(LOL - apologies if I sound miserable. Ill at the moment - no doubt strengthening my anger.)
RE
I also dislike the mixture of overly-dramatic and generally unprofessional reports (and by that I'm referring to Simmons' report and those reports that utilise language just that bit too sensationalist) and decent, professional, well put together reports (Martin Geissler's report from South Africa being one example, all Bill Neely's reports being other examples). This is why people refuse to tune into ITV News - it's almost as if they have had a gradual 'formality to fluff' approach to bulletins this decade. They're capable of better and I don't know why they've decided to dumb down so much over the past few years. I guess I was speaking too soon when I said that they were getting back on track to proper news coverage after a rough few years appearing as if they were the TV equivalent of the Daily Star.
(LOL - apologies if I sound miserable. Ill at the moment - no doubt strengthening my anger.)
I wonder if the return of the Editor, Deborah Turness, from maternity leave has anything to do with this. I don't know much about her, but I think she was once something important at Five News in the days when they specialised in really silly, sensationalist news coverage. She must have had something to do with the change in style (or should that be dumbing-down) if ITV News in recent years. Then she went away for a while and, like you BBC Nicky, I thought things were getting back to normal again. But now...?
I also dislike the mixture of overly-dramatic and generally unprofessional reports (and by that I'm referring to Simmons' report and those reports that utilise language just that bit too sensationalist) and decent, professional, well put together reports (Martin Geissler's report from South Africa being one example, all Bill Neely's reports being other examples). This is why people refuse to tune into ITV News - it's almost as if they have had a gradual 'formality to fluff' approach to bulletins this decade. They're capable of better and I don't know why they've decided to dumb down so much over the past few years. I guess I was speaking too soon when I said that they were getting back on track to proper news coverage after a rough few years appearing as if they were the TV equivalent of the Daily Star.
(LOL - apologies if I sound miserable. Ill at the moment - no doubt strengthening my anger.)
I wonder if the return of the Editor, Deborah Turness, from maternity leave has anything to do with this. I don't know much about her, but I think she was once something important at Five News in the days when they specialised in really silly, sensationalist news coverage. She must have had something to do with the change in style (or should that be dumbing-down) if ITV News in recent years. Then she went away for a while and, like you BBC Nicky, I thought things were getting back to normal again. But now...?
LU
I wonder if the return of the Editor, Deborah Turness, from maternity leave has anything to do with this. I don't know much about her, but I think she was once something important at Five News in the days when they specialised in really silly, sensationalist news coverage. She must have had something to do with the change in style (or should that be dumbing-down) if ITV News in recent years. Then she went away for a while and, like you BBC Nicky, I thought things were getting back to normal again. But now...?
i've always suspected that. the move to sensationalism also returned when she first took over from David Mannion when he moved upstairs a few years ago.
I wonder if the return of the Editor, Deborah Turness, from maternity leave has anything to do with this. I don't know much about her, but I think she was once something important at Five News in the days when they specialised in really silly, sensationalist news coverage. She must have had something to do with the change in style (or should that be dumbing-down) if ITV News in recent years. Then she went away for a while and, like you BBC Nicky, I thought things were getting back to normal again. But now...?
i've always suspected that. the move to sensationalism also returned when she first took over from David Mannion when he moved upstairs a few years ago.
CH
Lots of people do tune into ITV News. Reason being they want something different to the BBC's bleak studio and endless, monotonous barrage of spoon-fed graphs and statistics.
The intended audience (which you're obviously not part of, so I dunno why you're watching it in the first place) is very different from that of the BBC. If ITV didn't put their own perspective on the news then it would be the same as the BBC News. And what would be the point in that??
It's just not for you, BBCNicky. You have a choice between BBC News, ITV News, Channel 4 News, Five News and Sky News - one of them's bound to agree with you but don't expect all of them to, because they all serve different audiences.
This is why people refuse to tune into ITV News
Lots of people do tune into ITV News. Reason being they want something different to the BBC's bleak studio and endless, monotonous barrage of spoon-fed graphs and statistics.
The intended audience (which you're obviously not part of, so I dunno why you're watching it in the first place) is very different from that of the BBC. If ITV didn't put their own perspective on the news then it would be the same as the BBC News. And what would be the point in that??
It's just not for you, BBCNicky. You have a choice between BBC News, ITV News, Channel 4 News, Five News and Sky News - one of them's bound to agree with you but don't expect all of them to, because they all serve different audiences.
SK
skyfan
This is why people refuse to tune into ITV News
Lots of people do tune into ITV News. Reason being they want something different to the BBC's bleak studio and endless, monotonous barrage of spoon-fed graphs and statistics.
The intended audience (which you're obviously not part of, so I dunno why you're watching it in the first place) is very different from that of the BBC. If ITV didn't put their own perspective on the news then it would be the same as the BBC News. And what would be the point in that??
It's just not for you, BBCNicky. You have a choice between BBC News, ITV News, Channel 4 News, Five News and Sky News - one of them's bound to agree with you but don't expect all of them to, because they all serve different audiences.
I don't think its soley for that reason. Its more to do with the type of presenters and reporting etc. Same reasons why people might not like ITV news and sky etc. Its all down to choice.