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IS
Inspector Sands
Markymark posted:

Ah, well, I thought 'BBC' CCM produced the customised versions of PSB 1 and 3, and handed those to Arqiva ? If Arqiva receive one great big lump of all services, then that complicates even further the long wished for regional HD opts ! ?

Sorry, one of us misunderstood, that's what I meant.

They give the MUXs to Arqiva seperately. What I was correcting was that doesn't happen at the TX site. So any splitting of the Isle of Man would either require a whole new encode chain or be juggled around by Arqiva in their domain
GE
thegeek Founding member
Markymark posted:
Steve in Pudsey posted:
I gather the whole of the North West got an NWT special opt covering the IoM elections fairly recently.

I suspect there may be ways to fudge the system to allow an IoM only opt on DTT while Winter Hill stays with network, but I guess the BBC's commitment to platform neutrality blocks that.


I doubt there is the facility, it would require deepish dynamic config within the CCM centres, technically very possible, but politically you're involving the CCM operator (still Atos?) in playout matters. I think the repatching of a buddy region in failure modes is about as far down that road as they can go?

It's been re-insourced and is run by the BBC again. Schedule-driven config changes do happen from time to time - eg if BBC Alba comes on earlier for football (which necessitates some radio services being taken off DTT in Scotland)
TE
Technologist
It is one mux 1 per "sipsi" from CCM which is now BBC not Atos.... with a simple drop add to swap out the radio in a multi transmitter region,
( and sort of ditto mux 3 )
Arqiva more or less are just the pipes to the "home" for the essence,
they do some clever stuff with SI from fat SI whuch goes everywhere
to what each main transmitter needs.

15 days later

NL
Ne1L C
Do any channels still close down at night?
SP
Steve in Pudsey
It depends on your definition of closing down, you can argue that BBC One putting up a sustaining service from the News Channel is closing down. BBC Two shows its barker, BBC Four closes down. ITV arguable does with Nightscreen. Lots of channels show Teleshopping overnight, eg the UKTV channels.
GE
thegeek Founding member
Ne1L C posted:
Do any channels still close down at night?

Looking down the EPG, most of the BBC channels, and S4C. About the only non-PSB channel to not show their own programmes or go to Teleshopping overnight is the Cruise Channel.
IS
Inspector Sands
Ne1L C posted:
Do any channels still close down at night?

Depends what you mean by 'close down'. Gone are the days when a channel can end programmes for the night and switch off their transmitters, it's all multiplexed data streams. There are channels on DTT whose bits get turned off and used for something else.

If you mean they stop showing programmes then BBC2, BBC4, Cbeebies and CBBC all stop for either a caption or loop. A lot of channels show tellyshopping overnight, they're essentially a different channel as there's no branding and are kept seperate from the traditional programmes
NL
Ne1L C
Steve in Pudsey posted:
It depends on your definition of closing down, you can argue that BBC One putting up a sustaining service from the News Channel is closing down. BBC Two shows its barker, BBC Four closes down. ITV arguable does with Nightscreen. Lots of channels show Teleshopping overnight, eg the UKTV channels.


Does anyone actually watch Nightscreen?
RK
Rkolsen
Since there seems to be a discussion about Isle of Man why doesn’t ITV have an HD DTT feed?
DB
dbl
Rkolsen posted:
Since there seems to be a discussion about Isle of Man why doesn’t ITV have an HD DTT feed?

https://ukfree.tv/transmitters/tv/Douglas

It does, according to this. Although Freeview Lite.
BC
Blake Connolly Founding member
Ne1L C posted:
Steve in Pudsey posted:
It depends on your definition of closing down, you can argue that BBC One putting up a sustaining service from the News Channel is closing down. BBC Two shows its barker, BBC Four closes down. ITV arguable does with Nightscreen. Lots of channels show Teleshopping overnight, eg the UKTV channels.


Does anyone actually watch Nightscreen?


It's a very important example of ITV programming made in the regions... Laughing
NL
Ne1L C
Rkolsen posted:
Since there seems to be a discussion about Isle of Man why doesn’t ITV have an HD DTT feed?


Weather, distance from mainland?

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