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Even 1966! (June 2018)

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thegeek Founding member
sbahnhof 7 posted:

They must've played it at every opportunity in 1990, right? We hear it heavily in this vid of BBC continuity for Cameroon v England - first in a long advert, then in the match intro. Plus Des Lynam forgetting his lines shockingly-but-not-very.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdAI5y69ZnM

Some excerpts from this (BBC COW, title sequence, and a bit of Des) were used in the build-up to yesterday's game. I think sourced from their own archive...
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Markymark
Night Thoughts posted:
Apologies if this gets dusted off every four year - mods, please feel free to bin or merge with an old thread if necessary!

The amazing ITV Sport mock in The Gallery section had me looking for the original 70s World of Sport sting, which has led me down a ridiculous YouTube wormhole where I've just found this 1966 intro, complete with Eurovision ident (was this a "world feed"-style arrangement or did both BBC and ITV use this?). Quite a toe-tapper, mind.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5fCuWaVglE

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It’s fantastic, I’d like to know too whether that was used on air domestically, or just world feed. The build up is just like an ITV start up from the 60s/70s, big dramatic build up, and straight into something mundane and dull, or at least that’s how the football match feed seemed to start !

The other clips from late 60s early 70s ITV Sport progs are interesting, there’s a colour Big Match from Sept 1969 ( two months before ITV’s colour service launched officially) and an early clip of the start of World of Sport’s results segment, which ( from memory) made BBC Grandstand seem like something from the 1930s in comparison

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etlGXr-sIeY
Last edited by Markymark on 8 July 2018 3:53pm
NT
Night Thoughts
sbahnhof 7 posted:



For the international broadcast BBC and ITV worked together, but presumably neither would want to show the other's name in their domestic coverage. Is there a way to find out the music the BBC used in 1966?


I did wonder this, but 1966 must have been the first World Cup to get blanket coverage (1962 was in Chile so presumably beyond technology then, heaven knows about 1958 in Sweden) so perhaps it was a novelty they wanted to brag about? I'm speculating wildly, of course.

It does show how sports coverage came on in leaps and bounds in just a few short years at the end of the 1960s, though.
TI
tightrope78
There was live coverage within Europe from at least the 1958 World Cup via the Eurovision network but that was only possible for Eorld Cups stages in Europe. For 1962 video tapes had to be flown back to the U.K. and it would be 48 hours before they were shown on TV. 1966 was the first time that viewers in South America were able to see selected matches live via satellite.
DE
DE88
tightrope78 posted:
For 1962 video tapes had to be flown back to the U.K. and it would be 48 hours before they were shown on TV.


Videotapes... or films? Wink

According to Genome, they were usually shown at around 10:30 at night.
TI
tightrope78
DE88 posted:
tightrope78 posted:
For 1962 video tapes had to be flown back to the U.K. and it would be 48 hours before they were shown on TV.


Videotapes... or films? Wink

According to Genome, they were usually shown at around 10:30 at night.

You know what I meant😀
NT
Night Thoughts
sbahnhof 7 posted:


About the 1966 BBC and ITV theme tunes, the ITV Carousel historian sayeth:
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The 1966 championships was the very first to be broadcast to certain parts of the world via satellite, South American viewers were able to watch selected matches as they happened alongside those on the other side of the Atlantic watching live via Eurovision. ... A Eurovision title sequence incorporated both the names of the BBC and ITV, but this was probably not seen in British homes. For certain ITV had their own title sequence accompanied by a theme tune entitled "On The Ball" performed by The John Schroeder Orchestra.



For the international broadcast BBC and ITV worked together, but presumably neither would want to show the other's name in their domestic coverage. Is there a way to find out the music the BBC used in 1966?


For some reason my eye completely skipped over that quote from the Carousel website when I responded earlier, apologies and thank you for hunting it down!

Here is On The Ball by The John Schroeder Orchestra:



Some little gems in the Carousel website - why on earth did ITV keep joining matches 20/30 minutes in? Channel not taking any World Cup coverage is notable.
EA
Earlie37
sbahnhof 7 posted:


ITV's had a bit more "get-up-and-go" energy to it...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtsqGHBduGE

Thumbs up Shocked Arrow Surprised [glowstick emoji]


ITV were throwing everything at their titles that year to win the 'memorable tune' of the two of them. Personally, I think it worked. It's a reworking of Rendezvous by the French master of electronica Jean Michel Jarre with some help by Apollo 440. ITV released an album of it with a 7 minute mix of it after the Championship.

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sbahnhof 7, Ben Shatliff and Larry the Loafer gave kudos
DE
DE88
After losing out to Nessun Dorma and America, you couldn't blame them at all.
MY
MY83
Ironically ITV's theme tunes are more memorable to me in recent years because you always hear them in and out of breaks.

Miss the BBC opening sequence and you won't hear it again.
CI
cityprod
Earlie37 posted:
sbahnhof 7 posted:


ITV's had a bit more "get-up-and-go" energy to it...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtsqGHBduGE

Thumbs up Shocked Arrow Surprised [glowstick emoji]


ITV were throwing everything at their titles that year to win the 'memorable tune' of the two of them. Personally, I think it worked. It's a reworking of Rendezvous by the French master of electronica Jean Michel Jarre with some help by Apollo 440. ITV released an album of it with a 7 minute mix of it after the Championship.

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To be accurate, it's a reworking of Fourth Rendez-Vous, from the album Rendez-Vous. Rendez-Vous was like Jean Michel Jarre's earlier albums, Oxygene and Equinoxe, where each track was a numbered part of the album, the album being the whole piece, like movements of a symphony.

MY
MY83
Which begs the question..... who in ITV's promotional department was the closet Jarre fan in 1998 who thought "Hmm...." ?

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