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Accurate maps of ITV regions

(May 2016)

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A former member
Riaz posted:
I'm well aware of the transmitter coverage overlap between regions extending for more than 20 miles either way but were any (almost) guaranteed areas of reception from a particular transmitter maps drawn up? Did ITV company news gathering teams know which towns were and were not in their company's territory or were the frontiers of the territory very fuzzy?


King's Lynn was officially in the Yorkshire region. That didn't ever stop Anglia from covering news from there, and why should it?


A very strange but useful fact:
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In addition, the IBA bowed to public pressure from 70,000 viewers around northern parts of Norfolk who were served by Yorkshire Television via the Belmont Transmitter; many of the viewers had gone to "considerable trouble and expense" to receive Anglia Television. Three new low powered relay stations were built, allowing easier access to Anglia transmissions


I think this is the only time the public won against the IBA.
NJ
Neil Jones Founding member
Depending on atmospheric conditions it was possible in the analogue days to get a signal from another region even if you were not in an overlap area. I remember on a couple of occasions I could get another region, while buried here deep in the Sutton Coldfield footprint, and that region IIRC was Yorkshire, as I believe it shared the same UHF "channel" there as it did in Central. It was there, ghosting on the picture and generating interference over the signal from Sutton Coldfield. That was the exception rather than than the rule though.

Talking of transmitters and atmospheric conditions I have a "memory" (I believe it to be a memory, unless I dreamt it up and took it as literal) of seeing an apology caption from Central during a Catchphrase transmission on a late Saturday afternoon/early evening that had a picture of a transmitter in the Central style and font apologising for the picture problems caused by heavy fog at some point. It's possibly late 1980s/early 1990s. I only remember it because I was hiding behind a chair at my grandparents house at the time... I've never been able to find the caption again which is why I can't be sure if I've dreamt it or not.
ST
Stuart
Although Sky do define specific boundaries by post code for regional broadcasts, they provide additional services in the 970s channel range for overlap areas which can pick up another region.

No doubt VM do the same for DVB-C transmissions, & BT/YouView certainly do that for DVB-T2 where the additional signals load in the 800 range.

As a result, it's very difficult to draw an exact map of boundaries.

I only remember it because I was hiding behind a chair at my grandparents house at the time... I've never been able to find the caption again which is why I can't be sure if I've dreamt it or not.

I'm not sure that we should delve too deeply in to why a young Neil was hiding from his Grandparents . . . Very Happy Very Happy
Last edited by Stuart on 30 May 2016 6:58pm - 2 times in total
MA
Markymark
Depending on atmospheric conditions it was possible in the analogue days to get a signal from another region even if you were not in an overlap area.


Still true today with DTT, I have BBC 1 West Mids and ITV Central stored in the 800s which make
an appearance during appropriate weather conditions, and also London Live and That's Oxford.
DV
dvboy
My parents' aerial points west to the Wrekin and BBC 1 Wales has found its way into the 800s but not sure from which transmitter.
LL
London Lite Founding member
I used to get BBC1 South/TVS/Meridian from Hannington ranging from near perfect to snowy before DSO and Sudbury (BBC1 East/Anglia) in another room, but nothing since DSO.
MA
Markymark
Although Sky do define specific boundaries by post code for regional broadcasts, they provide additional services in the 970s channel range for overlap areas which can pick up another region.


Do they still that ? I thought ITV asked them to stop that quite a few years ago, the only ITV region that's an 'extra' is ITV London (available nationwide because it carries an AD track ?)

It's only all the other BBC regions that are carried in the 9xx range on Sky (and Freesat) ?
DV
dvboy
No doubt VM do the same for DVB-C transmissions


I think Yorkshire was available in Lincoln, certainly on analogue there were two ITVs available but only one BBC. London was also available on DVB-C as it was then the only one with Audio Description, may still be the same case.
MK
Mr Kite

I think the likes of the IBA did have maps although I can't locate any decent examples online.


Here's a 1984 one, that lives on my study wall

https://www.dropbox.com/s/gh2x5gbjk4oryr9/2016-05-30%2018.33.46.jpg?dl=0


That's a great map! Saved onto my hardrive.
MA
Markymark
I used to get BBC1 South/TVS/Meridian from Hannington ranging from near perfect to snowy before DSO and Sudbury (BBC1 East/Anglia) in another room, but nothing since DSO.


That's probably because since DSO Sudbury's COMs are co-channel with Hannington's PSBs and vice versa ! Cool

For you it's just a mangled mess now, undecodable
MA
Markymark

I think the likes of the IBA did have maps although I can't locate any decent examples online.


Here's a 1984 one, that lives on my study wall

https://www.dropbox.com/s/gh2x5gbjk4oryr9/2016-05-30%2018.33.46.jpg?dl=0


That's a great map! Saved onto my hardrive.


Have a higher res version I've just taken with my proper camera, rather than phone

https://www.dropbox.com/s/kat4kahj7hrkyvl/DSC01148.JPG?dl=0
NJ
Neil Jones Founding member
Although Sky do define specific boundaries by post code for regional broadcasts, they provide additional services in the 970s channel range for overlap areas which can pick up another region.


Do they still that ? I thought ITV asked them to stop that quite a few years ago, the only ITV region that's an 'extra' is ITV London (available nationwide because it carries an AD track ?)


Sky Channel 973 is ITV London, though ITV HD (at least in Central region) does have Audio Description as well, so 973 may indeed be the option for AD on an SD picture.

Even if there was an option for another ITV region on Sky, it wouldn't been in the 970s anyway, as that block of 10 is the BBC 2 nations, ITV London, C4/C4+1 and the BBC 1 nations.

Not that it really matters because you can add all the regions via Other Channels anyway, though of course these days it's all the same programmes bar two hours or so a day Smile

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It's only all the other BBC regions that are carried in the 9xx range on Sky (and Freesat) ?


Channel 951 upwards you'll find all the regions on Sky from the BBC. One will be missing, mapped to your postcode on 101 instead. They're all free-to-air so any compatible receiver can get them.
Last edited by Neil Jones on 30 May 2016 7:12pm

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