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Is extending children's channels to 9PM good for children?

And why is/isn't it? (May 2016)

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JF
JetixFann450
So recently, CBBC and CITV extended their 7pm shutdown time to 9pm. And it got me thinking. "Is extending children's channels to 9pm good for children?" It at least gives viewers 2 extra hours, but most children go to bed at like 7-8pm. This also applies to 24 hour children's networks, like Cartoon Network or Disney XD.

Nickelodeon started doing it when they switched to digital, and changed the closedown time to 10pm. And honestly, I'm fine with this "extending children network's times". Even if they stay up, at least they got a good amount of TV. Thumbs up

But what is your opinions on this?
LL
Larry the Loafer
I grew up with Cartoon Network finishing at 9pm and I turned out alright.
NA
Nathan
It's the parents’ responsibility to say when a child will go to bed, not a TV channels.
BR
Brekkie
I grew up with Cartoon Network finishing at 9pm and I turned out alright.

Well...
:-(
A former member
What happens if the child will not sleep? what if there unwell?

The version the kids channels now run 24hours aday is there no longer have to time share with others unlike on the old Astra service. Like Paramount or porn.
RI
Riaz
This has got the potential to turn into a deeply philosophical debate...

Is there a maximum target age of viewers for a children's channel to be called a children's channel?

If children's channels closed down early then would children end up watching programmes on other channels instead?
TC
TonyCurrie
An observation here. Back in the 1950s, Parliament feared that too much television could be harmful for children, so BBC and ITV were required to close down at 6pm for an hour to allow parents to get their offspring to bed without distractions. This became known as the "Toddler's Truce". Programmes before 6pm were designed for children; programmes after 7pm were not. The gap was filled in 1957 when the restriction was removed; although restrictions remained on Sundays. Daytime programmes had to be aimed at adults so that children would attend Sunday School without distractions; and television still closed for an hour from 6 till 7 to allow people to go to church. But there were exclusions - outside broadcasts and Welsh language programmes could be transmitted during this "closed period". Clever old ITV instantly saw the solution - TWW struck gold with their fully-networked Welsh light entertainment series LAND OF SONG (GWLAD Y GAN) which was very successful in the 6.15 - 7pm slot!! But how times have changed, eh?
JC
JCB
This argument was old even 20 years ago.
SP
Steve in Pudsey
There's a similar argument about why channels aimed at older kids transmit during the day when they should be at school.
JA
JAS84
Yeah, they should show archive programming during school hours and after the watershed. Retro stuff (90s or earlier), aimed at nostalgic adults who remember the shows from their youth (this really shouldn't be a problem for CITV and CBBC, I don't get why CITV didn't do this after Old Skool Weekend proved so popular a couple of years ago). Only show the stuff today's kids are into when they're legitimately able to watch - weekends, early morning, early evening. And definitely no new episodes of anything in school hours!
NJ
Neil Jones Founding member
JAS84 posted:
Yeah, they should show archive programming during school hours and after the watershed. Retro stuff (90s or earlier), aimed at nostalgic adults who remember the shows from their youth (this really shouldn't be a problem for CITV and CBBC, I don't get why CITV didn't do this after Old Skool Weekend proved so popular a couple of years ago). Only show the stuff today's kids are into when they're legitimately able to watch - weekends, early morning, early evening. And definitely no new episodes of anything in school hours!


Old Skool Weekend was only ever going to be a one-off. There's a difference between archive programming generating good ratings on an ongoing basis and programming being viewed because of the nostalgia it raises. I suspect you may find a lot of the Old Skool Weekend viewership was for nostalgic reasons - Challenge has the same problem to a certain extent as they go off and buy a lot of old stuff, it starts off good and then goes downhill from there, to be ultimately replaced with Tarrant, Bowen, Armstrong or Walsh.

CBBC did the Old School stuff in the mornings many years back as Class TV on the CBBC Channel. It lasted about six years before its licence requirements were changed, whether it was "successful" is open to interpretation - if it was, it would still be going.
RI
Riaz
JAS84 posted:
Yeah, they should show archive programming during school hours and after the watershed. Retro stuff (90s or earlier), aimed at nostalgic adults who remember the shows from their youth (this really shouldn't be a problem for CITV and CBBC, I don't get why CITV didn't do this after Old Skool Weekend proved so popular a couple of years ago). Only show the stuff today's kids are into when they're legitimately able to watch - weekends, early morning, early evening. And definitely no new episodes of anything in school hours!


Kids of today are into some of the old school stuff. Remember that many 'nostalgic adults' who watch children's programmes from their youth in the 1970s, 80s, and 90s have children themselves who share the same TV screen.

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