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Mr Kite
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The difference is Cornwall is now recognised as a National minority. Should this happen in the future to other areas, I believe there would be more debate then about opt-outs etc. I see Broadcasting as a (small) part of the devolution debate, I believe Culture comes under Scottish and Welsh powers already?


Sorry, I don't buy Cornish exceptionalism and can't even believe it's become borderline mainstream opinion. Ten years ago, the mere thought of it would've been hilarious. I'm pretty old-fashioned in this regard and think we need to get back to everyone being equal with equal needs. That includes Scotland too.
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A former member
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The difference is Cornwall is now recognised as a National minority. Should this happen in the future to other areas, I believe there would be more debate then about opt-outs etc. I see Broadcasting as a (small) part of the devolution debate, I believe Culture comes under Scottish and Welsh powers already?


Sorry, I don't buy Cornish exceptionalism and can't even believe it's become borderline mainstream opinion. Ten years ago, the mere thought of it would've been hilarious. I'm pretty old-fashioned in this regard and think we need to get back to everyone being equal with equal needs. That includes Scotland too.


There is the problem Scotland has never been equal, it pretty clear right now Scotland is different to the rest of the uk.
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Mr Kite
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There is the problem Scotland has never been equal, it pretty clear right now Scotland is different to the rest of the uk.


East Anglia is different to the rest of the UK. The Highlands are different to the lowlands. The Northern Isles are different to the mainland. Putting Scotland on a pedestal to placate separatists has always been counter-productive. Firstly, separatists are fundamentalists and cannot be placated. Secondly, it increases the feeling of separateness which bolsters their cause.

It's going to be fun to see just how many pieces the UK ends up in when it finally implodes.
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dosxuk
The difference is Cornwall is now recognised as a National minority. Should this happen in the future to other areas, I believe there would be more debate then about opt-outs etc. I see Broadcasting as a (small) part of the devolution debate, I believe Culture comes under Scottish and Welsh powers already?


I think you're mistaking Cornwall - the geographical area, with the Cornish ethnic group - a minority group even in Cornwall, who have been granted the status of a national minority. Cornwall itself has no special allowances.

The idea of Cornwall going off on it's own is complete fantasy.
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A former member
There is the problem Scotland has never been equal, it pretty clear right now Scotland is different to the rest of the uk.


East Anglia is different to the rest of the UK. The Highlands are different to the lowlands. The Northern Isles are different to the mainland. Putting Scotland on a pedestal to placate separatists has always been counter-productive. Firstly, separatists are fundamentalists and cannot be placated. Secondly, it increases the feeling of separateness which bolsters their cause.

It's going to be fun to see just how many pieces the UK ends up in when it finally implodes.


People in Scotland have been feeling that since early 80s,

Were not talking about council areas here, were talking about FOUR different counties which are united in a strange way...
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dosxuk
There is the problem Scotland has never been equal, it pretty clear right now Scotland is different to the rest of the uk.


In what way is Scotland different to the rest of the UK? Is there a change in circumstances, desires and needs as soon as you head north from Carlisle?

You could argue from the referendum results that Glasgow and Edinburgh both feel they're getting hard done by by Westminster, but that's no different to the other big cities across the entire UK.

It benefits nobody by having one set of rules for one part of the country to the other, especially rules which are currently being decided by popularism, not by actual requirement.
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Mr Kite
I think you're mistaking Cornwall - the geographical area, with the Cornish ethnic group - a minority group even in Cornwall, who have been granted the status of a national minority. Cornwall itself has no special allowances.


That's not to say Cornwall shouldn't have more power devolved to it, or cannot make decisions of cultural things such as the (barely alive) language or whatever. But if it's good enough for Cornwall, it's good enough for Devon, Kent and Northumberland.

As for broadcasting, the Westcountry TV region has around 0.8 million households. It's one of the smallest regions out there. Compare with Granada (3.1m), and Central West (2.9m), for example. I woudn't say it's the priority for splitting, if there is one.
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Mr Kite
Duplicate post.
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Mr Kite
Were not talking about council areas here, were talking about FOUR different counties which are united in a strange way...


Sorry you think that but the referendum suggests that a majority don't have that point of view.
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A former member
Were not talking about council areas here, were talking about FOUR different counties which are united in a strange way...


Sorry you think that but the referendum suggests that a majority don't have that point of view.


That got nothing to do with the referendum.. UK is still four different countries, Wales and Ni still have its own goverments.
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Mr Kite
All 50 US States have governments, with far more independence than Scotland has. So what?
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dosxuk
That got nothing to do with the referendum.. UK is still four different countries, Wales and Ni still have its own goverments.


And so does Scotland. England doesn't though.

I can understand NI having a separate government, but I don't get the point of having a Scottish / Welsh government. The border lines are arbitrary. There's no way a person in Wrexham has a completely different set of aims/needs to someone a few miles down the road in Chester.

I can see the point of more distributed devolution, especially to the main urban areas, but not to the individual nations, who's boundaries are defined by ancient history, not the needs of the people.

Anyway - this is all off topic...

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