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Ronald Reagan Dies

(June 2004)

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JV
James Vertigan Founding member
Judging by ED's caps on page 2, and the information given, it seems that our friends in America don't have the same procedure as we do here in the UK for these major news stories about the death of a key figure - ie: continuous news coverage and suspension of programmes and the situation of appropriate clothing (black ties) - the only person I can see wearing a black tie is the newsreader on CBS, although he may have already been wearing it before the news broke...

My condolences to all forumers across the pond from us here in the UK...
Last edited by James Vertigan on 5 June 2004 11:29pm
GE
thegeek Founding member
itsrobert posted:
That's the drawback with EuroNews. With them just playing continuous pre-recorded reports, how is it possible to break news? I've never actually seen EN during breaking news before - does anyone know how it's done? An aston of some sort?


Apparently there's a EuroNews studio somewhere. Doesn't get seen very often, though.

James Hatts posted:
ITV News Channel has moved to the London Tonight studio (not usually used by the NC at weekends). Political correspondent Simon Harris is now in the studio with Andrew Harvey

Is this because the gallery doesn't have enough staff to have lots of guests and a breaking story at this time on a Saturday night in the 'theatre of news', but they can handle it in something simpler?
NH
Nick Harvey Founding member
itsrobert posted:
Conflicting reports now - Adrian Finighan on World has just said that President Bush will be speaking to the press shortly. Not sure what's happening now!

Of ONE thing we can be certain, Rev Dublya of the Church of the Seventh Day Morons won't be speaking to ANYBODY until one of his advisors has explained to him who Ron actually was.
BB
BBCTV2003
itsrobert - As for Peter Sissons - in a way, it was a stoke of luck that he is on duty tonight. At least he has lots of experience with this sort of news, and he is probably the most authoritative at the BBC.

Could it not be possible that this was a forseen event, maybe Tim Willcox was supposed to do all day BBC One News but this story could possibly have been placed under embargo or networks being told be prepared, so they snagged Sissons from News 24 and got him to tackle the rest of the day in case the story broke while he was there. If this is the case, what happened to Tim Willcox.
LO
Londoner
thegeek posted:
James Hatts posted:
ITV News Channel has moved to the London Tonight studio (not usually used by the NC at weekends). Political correspondent Simon Harris is now in the studio with Andrew Harvey

Is this because the gallery doesn't have enough staff to have lots of guests and a breaking story at this time on a Saturday night in the 'theatre of news', but they can handle it in something simpler?

No - it's because the News Channel team always vacate the theatre of news 45 minutes or an hour before an ITV1 bulletin to allow the network news team time for rehearsals, pre-records etc.

On weekdays at 11.45am and 9.30pm the London Today/Tonight studio is used by the News Channel, and at 5.30pm on weekdays and 45 mins before the weekend bulletins they use the static, single-shot CSO studio at ITN.

Unusually tonight the London studio was used, which of course allowed for a studio guest. When the CSO is used, guests have to use the camera position in the newsroom.
Last edited by Londoner on 5 June 2004 11:36pm - 2 times in total
ND
ndp
BBCTV2003 posted:
itsrobert - As for Peter Sissons - in a way, it was a stoke of luck that he is on duty tonight. At least he has lots of experience with this sort of news, and he is probably the most authoritative at the BBC.

Could it not be possible that this was a forseen event, maybe Tim Willcox was supposed to do all day BBC One News but this story could possibly have been placed under embargo or networks being told be prepared, so they snagged Sissons from News 24 and got him to tackle the rest of the day in case the story broke while he was there. If this is the case, what happened to Tim Willcox.


Theres been speculation all day - including one premature report of his death, so possibly.
RE
Re-it-er-ate
ndp posted:
BBCTV2003 posted:
itsrobert - As for Peter Sissons - in a way, it was a stoke of luck that he is on duty tonight. At least he has lots of experience with this sort of news, and he is probably the most authoritative at the BBC.

Could it not be possible that this was a forseen event, maybe Tim Willcox was supposed to do all day BBC One News but this story could possibly have been placed under embargo or networks being told be prepared, so they snagged Sissons from News 24 and got him to tackle the rest of the day in case the story broke while he was there. If this is the case, what happened to Tim Willcox.


Theres been speculation all day - including one premature report of his death, so possibly.


Could have been indeed. Sissons would have probably been a choice for the D-Day Coverage too. A very capable newsreader he is too. Its hard to imagine Matthew Amroliwala or Darren Jordon handling it so well as Peter did tonight.

Same on News 24, Chris Lowe carrying on extremely well whilst the Carol let down Walker keeps running out fo questions and has to prattle on.

Its quite strange him passing on D-Day. D-Day which began to bring about the end of World War 2, which heralded the start of the cold war, which was perhaps finished off by Reagan's presidency.

In my view, a very strong and able president, especially due to belief in free market economics.
IT
itsrobert Founding member
James Vertigan posted:
Judging by ED's caps on page 2, and the information given, it seems that our friends in America don't have the same procedure as we do here in the UK for these major news stories about the death of a key figure - ie: continuous news coverage and suspension of programmes and the situation of appropriate clothing (black ties) - the only person I can see wearing a black tie is the newsreader on CBS, although he may have already been wearing it before the news broke...

My condolences to all forumers across the pond from us here in the UK...


Yes, it does seem rather strange. I can understand that he hasn't been president for fifteen years, but he was still a much-loved person. It seems that the full blown black tie/continuous coverage is reserved for the death of sitting presidents in the US. However, I imagine the British media would adopt the traditional method of reporting a death when Margaret Thatcher eventually dies, even though she hasn't been PM for fourteen years.

BBCTV2003 posted:
itsrobert - As for Peter Sissons - in a way, it was a stoke of luck that he is on duty tonight. At least he has lots of experience with this sort of news, and he is probably the most authoritative at the BBC.

Could it not be possible that this was a forseen event, maybe Tim Willcox was supposed to do all day BBC One News but this story could possibly have been placed under embargo or networks being told be prepared, so they snagged Sissons from News 24 and got him to tackle the rest of the day in case the story broke while he was there. If this is the case, what happened to Tim Willcox.


Very good point there - I hadn't thought of it from that perspective. Tim hasn't been on News 24 at all today, so it seems he came in just for the 12.00 summary on BBC1! I did think it was strange how they got Peter Sissons from News 24, given he'd already done the best part of a six-hour shift.
DA
DAS Founding member
Nick Harvey posted:
I have to say, trying to balance this comment as best I can, that I'm finding the reaction of the British networks a little odd, having been involved in British television all though the "President's Brain is Missing" years.


Well I suppose that's to be expected really! When the present incumbent pops off, I'm sure most will be flooding him with kind words completely at odds with the treatment he gets now!

Having said that, I was listening to Richard Bacon on Five Live when the news was breaking and I thought it was quite refreshing that their memories of Reagan were not sucky uppy, and they certainly didn't shy away from the fact he was perceived to be "stupid" as Mr Bacon so brilliantly put it!
AJ
A.J.A.
CNN International has pulled out of CNN US coverage for a World News bulletin. The US coverage went to black a couple of times, some special titles were played and then the CNNI presenter appeared.
AJ
A.J.A.
They've now faded back into US coverage again...
GE
thegeek Founding member
itsrobert posted:
Just flicked back to BBC World, and noticed they've put up their ticker during "Brain Story" to inform viewers of Reagan's death. I've never seen them put it up when N9 is off air. Does any techy person know how it's done? I presumed that the N9 gallery would add the ticker, but can Presentation do it too?


It's nice that they've put a lot of attention to detail into the ticker, by modelling the orange part as a 3D object - you can see straight through to the other side of the box. But when there's no tower sitting on top of it, it does look a little odd. Almost as if it has a hat, in fact.

Is it not possible that they're running the back half hour programmes through N9's gallery, in order to generate the ticker?

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