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Part of 60 years of the television sitcom. (August 2016)

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JA
james-2001
Well, maybe they could do something to change that perception by making more stuff that way! Then again, you only have to look at the reaction to The Hobbit (much of which came before people had even seen a single frame of it), that people aren't prepared to even give it a chance. Which is a shame because on a big cinema screen it did look really impressive once you'd adjusted to it.
JO
John
It was very Darran Little
DA
davidhorman
To judge from the trailer I've just seen, it looks like Goodnight Sweetheart has been given the film effect treatment. There was a clip from AYBS which wasn't filmic, so it wasn't an effect applied to the trailer itself.
DE
deejay
I thought Porridge was excellent, and if they don't make a series it will have been a very good opportunity missed. Affectionate and sympathetic to the original, but really taking the thing on - a proper reboot. Are You Being Served was less of a success in my opinion, just modern day actors doing their version of the original and yet this was also mishmashed with a reboot idea, of setting it in a store faced with modern competition. I think they should have etither done a straight remake, or done a reboot - but that's just my opinion. I liked it, but not as much as Porridge.

As for the look of them, I kind of get why Porridge had a filmic effect applied (although I caught up on iPlayer on iPad and this wasn't noticeable at all). The original Porridge was part film, part multi camera studio and was pretty grungy in its look. And I always found Birds of a Feather extremely soft - I always assumed that was something to do with where it had been shot, but maybe the rosy look was part of the edit ... It's like anything made in studio by LWT in the 80s, which was instantly recognisable by its very crisp edge detail and 'square' audience sound.
BR
Brekkie
Must admit didn't really notice the filmic effect on these - if it was there is wasn't in a way which hampered the programming.

Agree with deejay that Porridge would be worth pursuing - the only thing I'd say is it would be better without the laughter track. Are you Being Served though should never be mentioned again.
:-(
A former member
AYBS really is right down the middle, I'm in the camp which loved it, I would like to see a new series. I do get the other half dont get it.

I really do wish Comedy playhouse would come back full time.
WH
Whataday Founding member
And I always found Birds of a Feather extremely soft - I always assumed that was something to do with where it had been shot, but maybe the rosy look was part of the edit ... It's like anything made in studio by LWT in the 80s, which was instantly recognisable by its very crisp edge detail and 'square' audience sound.


There's a distinct difference between the early series of Birds shot at Elstree, and later episodes shot at Teddington. The Elstree years looked a lot colder and harder:

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After the move to Teddington the picture looked a lot less harsh, and even less still after the kitchen blew up and was replaced.

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Talking of sitcoms being softly filmed, I always thought The Vicar of Dibley looked like it was shot with Vaseline on the the lens.
LL
London Lite Founding member
Roy Barraclough was spot-on as Mr Grainger. The new actors took some getting used to, but it worked for me towards the end.

The only criticism was the actress who played Miss Brahms who sounded like she was still on The Catherine Tate Show as Vicky Pollard's friend.
RD
RDJ
Roy Barraclough was spot-on as Mr Grainger. The new actors took some getting used to, but it worked for me towards the end.

The only criticism was the actress who played Miss Brahms who sounded like she was still on The Catherine Tate Show as Vicky Pollard's friend.


Agreed. Mr Grainger was spot on but the rest just couldn't match their predecessors which is essential when they're playing the same characters.

It was admirable to choose to stick with it being set in 1988 but there was some scripting and words that just would never have been said in the late 80's, it was always going to be difficult.
JO
Jon
RDJ posted:
Roy Barraclough was spot-on as Mr Grainger. The new actors took some getting used to, but it worked for me towards the end.

The only criticism was the actress who played Miss Brahms who sounded like she was still on The Catherine Tate Show as Vicky Pollard's friend.


Agreed. Mr Grainger was spot on but the rest just couldn't match their predecessors which is essential when they're playing the same characters.

It was admirable to choose to stick with it being set in 1988 but there was some scripting and words that just would never have been said in the late 80's, it was always going to be difficult.

I'm not sure it's meant to be an exact impersonation.
WH
Whataday Founding member
To judge from the trailer I've just seen, it looks like Goodnight Sweetheart has been given the film effect treatment. There was a clip from AYBS which wasn't filmic, so it wasn't an effect applied to the trailer itself.


I've seen that clip and it looked like it had a similar treatment to Birds of a Feather - not 24fps but being shot in HD and with realistic lighting giving a more filmic effect.

On a similar note, when they shot the first series of Goodnight Sweetheart, on watching back the rushes the producer felt the scenes shot in 1940 looked too modern, so they adjusted the hue to reduce the colour blue. It was a subtle tweak but from then on the adjustment was made every time Gary went back in time.
DA
davidhorman
RDJ posted:
It was admirable to choose to stick with it being set in 1988 but there was some scripting and words that just would never have been said in the late 80's, it was always going to be difficult.


"Fit" has apparently had the sense of "sexy" for a lot longer than you'd think, but it definitely sounded out of place, as did the mention of Simple Minds (even though they were also of that time). It's just hard to think of AYBS as anything other than an early-to-mid 70s sitcom, even though it ran until 1985.

Is it bad that I was wondering whether they were going to put in a good-natured but ever-so-slightly-political-incorrect joke about the fact that the new staff member was black? Again, hard not to think of AYBS as being contemporary with Rising Damp in that regard...

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I've seen that clip and it looked like it had a similar treatment to Birds of a Feather - not 24fps


It was definitely 2 5 fps, in the trailer anyway.

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On a similar note, when they shot the first series of Goodnight Sweetheart, on watching back the rushes the producer felt the scenes shot in 1940 looked too modern, so they adjusted the hue to reduce the colour blue. It was a subtle tweak but from then on the adjustment was made every time Gary went back in time.


Huh, never noticed that (and wasn't supposed to). Good call though.

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