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TVE showed some footage of Sky News', BBC News 24's and Five News' coverage around 20:20 tonight, to end a programme (which started again straight after).
Blake Connolly posted:
TVe just had an interesting look at tommorrow's papers - basically going round the newsrooms with the editors explaining thier front pages, many of which featured horrific pictures of the dead.
TVE showed some footage of Sky News', BBC News 24's and Five News' coverage around 20:20 tonight, to end a programme (which started again straight after).
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Well as anone who knows anything about anything has known from the start , Saddam had nothing to do with Al Qeada or international terrorism in general.
He was a bad man, but at least he kept his wrong doings to his own country.... and Kuwait.
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wassup2nite posted:
Yeah, very scary. So much for the world been safer now Saddam Hussein been captured.
Well as anone who knows anything about anything has known from the start , Saddam had nothing to do with Al Qeada or international terrorism in general.
He was a bad man, but at least he kept his wrong doings to his own country.... and Kuwait.
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The comparison with the IRA is actually very relevant. The ETA/SPain thing has been going on for as long as the IR/UK thing, so spainish internal intelligence agencies are as experienced as those in the UK.
I have no doubt (and this has always been the case) that London will get attacked by such an attack (more likely a suicide attack) sometime. The fact that such an event has happened in Spain makes it even more likely in the UK
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itsrobert posted:
I was speaking to a Spanish friend today, and she said that it us unusual for ETA not to give prior warning like the IRA does. She speculated at lunch today that it was Al-Qaeda.
The comparison with the IRA is actually very relevant. The ETA/SPain thing has been going on for as long as the IR/UK thing, so spainish internal intelligence agencies are as experienced as those in the UK.
I have no doubt (and this has always been the case) that London will get attacked by such an attack (more likely a suicide attack) sometime. The fact that such an event has happened in Spain makes it even more likely in the UK
NG
I may well be wrong, but I suspect the black "headphone" in his ear is from a mobile phone to get faster talk-back to the gallery in the UK.
The VT's can simply be run-in from the first frame when Huw finishes each que...
Could be a handsfree kit for a mobile - but this wouldn't get the talkback to his ear faster than the normal method - which is a mobile phone in the satellite truck routed to his earpiece!
Yes - some BBC trucks have "satcomms" which adds to the delay compared to a mobile - though is also more reliable as mobiles have a nasty habit of dropping out - but GSM IFB/Cleanfeed/cue is pretty normal on OBs. The advantage of using a mobile phone routed via the truck, rather than a handsfree kit, is that the cleanfeed/talkback can be routed to the engineer and camera operator as well as the presenter.
In my experience it is less common in Europe for moulded earpieces to be used on location - so it maybe that the truck provided an in-ear headphone instead.
BBC News always run on instant starts on their VTs/Servers - so it would be as normal.
noggin
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Aston posted:
JimR posted:
and you're right... he's in Madrid!
I may well be wrong, but I suspect the black "headphone" in his ear is from a mobile phone to get faster talk-back to the gallery in the UK.
The VT's can simply be run-in from the first frame when Huw finishes each que...
Could be a handsfree kit for a mobile - but this wouldn't get the talkback to his ear faster than the normal method - which is a mobile phone in the satellite truck routed to his earpiece!
Yes - some BBC trucks have "satcomms" which adds to the delay compared to a mobile - though is also more reliable as mobiles have a nasty habit of dropping out - but GSM IFB/Cleanfeed/cue is pretty normal on OBs. The advantage of using a mobile phone routed via the truck, rather than a handsfree kit, is that the cleanfeed/talkback can be routed to the engineer and camera operator as well as the presenter.
In my experience it is less common in Europe for moulded earpieces to be used on location - so it maybe that the truck provided an in-ear headphone instead.
BBC News always run on instant starts on their VTs/Servers - so it would be as normal.
NG
I may well be wrong, but I suspect the black "headphone" in his ear is from a mobile phone to get faster talk-back to the gallery in the UK.
The VT's can simply be run-in from the first frame when Huw finishes each que...
It seems to be something different from the usual satellite (?) links used for these types of programme, as there are no long delays between a package finishing and Huw talking. The usual long delays were quite visible on the 21.00 joint programme with Philippa Thomas.
It was almost certainly a satellite link to get Huw's vision and sound back to London, though it was probably a mobile phone used to get the studio sound/talkback from London to Huw. The lack of a noticable delay is more likely to be a result of a very good director judging the delay (by talking to Huw prior to transmission), and Huw not listening for the end of a package but taking the directors early cue, and the London gallery mixing as they see Huw pick up his cue.
Cueing presenters over satellite is a bit of a black art - and the longer the delay the more it feels like a game of chicken (Double hop lives from Sydney to the UK are always fun...)
I think the slick nature of Huw linking and picking up cleanly was less a triumph of technology - more a case of a good team at both ends and a very good director in London.
noggin
Founding member
itsrobert posted:
Aston posted:
JimR posted:
and you're right... he's in Madrid!
I may well be wrong, but I suspect the black "headphone" in his ear is from a mobile phone to get faster talk-back to the gallery in the UK.
The VT's can simply be run-in from the first frame when Huw finishes each que...
It seems to be something different from the usual satellite (?) links used for these types of programme, as there are no long delays between a package finishing and Huw talking. The usual long delays were quite visible on the 21.00 joint programme with Philippa Thomas.
It was almost certainly a satellite link to get Huw's vision and sound back to London, though it was probably a mobile phone used to get the studio sound/talkback from London to Huw. The lack of a noticable delay is more likely to be a result of a very good director judging the delay (by talking to Huw prior to transmission), and Huw not listening for the end of a package but taking the directors early cue, and the London gallery mixing as they see Huw pick up his cue.
Cueing presenters over satellite is a bit of a black art - and the longer the delay the more it feels like a game of chicken (Double hop lives from Sydney to the UK are always fun...)
I think the slick nature of Huw linking and picking up cleanly was less a triumph of technology - more a case of a good team at both ends and a very good director in London.
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A former member
The silly explosion that begins the BBC News titles is really inappropriate on days like this.
LO
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No, Gordon has come in early to cover Chris, who has been on since 5, who was himself covering JT, who is in Mardrid.
And Steve Gaisford took over at 1am
fusionlad posted:
Blake Connolly posted:
Gordon Radley's on early on Sky News - does this mean Paula Middlehurst's going to stay on all night?.
No, Gordon has come in early to cover Chris, who has been on since 5, who was himself covering JT, who is in Mardrid.
And Steve Gaisford took over at 1am