NH
Nick Harvey
Founding member
That's one of them then; we just need to find the other.
ITV have booked a further two, for the remaining sub-regions to go on Astra.
There was a thread about it a while ago, but I'm feeling FAR too lazy to go off and find it now; lets use this one.
ITV have booked a further two, for the remaining sub-regions to go on Astra.
There was a thread about it a while ago, but I'm feeling FAR too lazy to go off and find it now; lets use this one.
NH
Nick Harvey
Founding member
Further to previous, it's called ITV4 - Test1 because it's the first test on ITV's fourth transponder, nothing to do with the proposed ITV4 service.
The first test on the other transponder, when it wakes up, is likely to be called ITV5 - Test1.
It's just a slightly more long-winded name than the 1-1, 1-2, 2-1, 3-1 system that they used when they tested the first three transponders.
The first test on the other transponder, when it wakes up, is likely to be called ITV5 - Test1.
It's just a slightly more long-winded name than the 1-1, 1-2, 2-1, 3-1 system that they used when they tested the first three transponders.
BR
Interesting article on Media Guardian today re: the future of ITV on Sky.
At the moment ITV pay Sky £17m to encrypt ITV1/2 with Sky rumoured to have offered to reduce the price to £13m for the next contract.
(P.S. Why do ITV pay Sky to broadcast ITV1 - but Sky pay ITV to broadcast ITV2?)
However, the BBC hope ITV will broadcast channels "in the clear" to pave the way for the launch of "Freesat", the satellite equivalent of Freeview.
However, this causes problems with rights such as UEFA Champions League and Hollywood movies due to some coverage in Rep. of Ireland and mainland Europe, but ITV are said to have taken this into account in their recent negotiations.
It also causes some problems with regions, but ITV will probably have an arrangement similar to the BBC.
At the moment ITV pay Sky £17m to encrypt ITV1/2 with Sky rumoured to have offered to reduce the price to £13m for the next contract.
(P.S. Why do ITV pay Sky to broadcast ITV1 - but Sky pay ITV to broadcast ITV2?)
However, the BBC hope ITV will broadcast channels "in the clear" to pave the way for the launch of "Freesat", the satellite equivalent of Freeview.
However, this causes problems with rights such as UEFA Champions League and Hollywood movies due to some coverage in Rep. of Ireland and mainland Europe, but ITV are said to have taken this into account in their recent negotiations.
It also causes some problems with regions, but ITV will probably have an arrangement similar to the BBC.
SP
Interesting stuff. I'd like to see all the ITV regions on the EPG as the BBC ones are. It'd make things a bit easier for those of us who receive the 'wrong' region.
Brekkie Boy posted:
Interesting article on Media Guardian today re: the future of ITV on Sky.
At the moment ITV pay Sky £17m to encrypt ITV1/2 with Sky rumoured to have offered to reduce the price to £13m for the next contract.
(P.S. Why do ITV pay Sky to broadcast ITV1 - but Sky pay ITV to broadcast ITV2?)
However, the BBC hope ITV will broadcast channels "in the clear" to pave the way for the launch of "Freesat", the satellite equivalent of Freeview.
However, this causes problems with rights such as UEFA Champions League and Hollywood movies due to some coverage in Rep. of Ireland and mainland Europe, but ITV are said to have taken this into account in their recent negotiations.
It also causes some problems with regions, but ITV will probably have an arrangement similar to the BBC.
At the moment ITV pay Sky £17m to encrypt ITV1/2 with Sky rumoured to have offered to reduce the price to £13m for the next contract.
(P.S. Why do ITV pay Sky to broadcast ITV1 - but Sky pay ITV to broadcast ITV2?)
However, the BBC hope ITV will broadcast channels "in the clear" to pave the way for the launch of "Freesat", the satellite equivalent of Freeview.
However, this causes problems with rights such as UEFA Champions League and Hollywood movies due to some coverage in Rep. of Ireland and mainland Europe, but ITV are said to have taken this into account in their recent negotiations.
It also causes some problems with regions, but ITV will probably have an arrangement similar to the BBC.
Interesting stuff. I'd like to see all the ITV regions on the EPG as the BBC ones are. It'd make things a bit easier for those of us who receive the 'wrong' region.
FA
Interesting stuff. I'd like to see all the ITV regions on the EPG as the BBC ones are. It'd make things a bit easier for those of us who receive the 'wrong' region.
Wouldn't they end up paying more for 16 or so channels (including 2,3 and news), rather than just paying for 4 channels to appear on the EPG?
Or would they not have to pay SKY anything, and therefore they'd have £17/£13million extra to use?
Spencer For Hire posted:
Brekkie Boy posted:
Interesting article on Media Guardian today re: the future of ITV on Sky.
At the moment ITV pay Sky £17m to encrypt ITV1/2 with Sky rumoured to have offered to reduce the price to £13m for the next contract.
(P.S. Why do ITV pay Sky to broadcast ITV1 - but Sky pay ITV to broadcast ITV2?)
However, the BBC hope ITV will broadcast channels "in the clear" to pave the way for the launch of "Freesat", the satellite equivalent of Freeview.
However, this causes problems with rights such as UEFA Champions League and Hollywood movies due to some coverage in Rep. of Ireland and mainland Europe, but ITV are said to have taken this into account in their recent negotiations.
It also causes some problems with regions, but ITV will probably have an arrangement similar to the BBC.
At the moment ITV pay Sky £17m to encrypt ITV1/2 with Sky rumoured to have offered to reduce the price to £13m for the next contract.
(P.S. Why do ITV pay Sky to broadcast ITV1 - but Sky pay ITV to broadcast ITV2?)
However, the BBC hope ITV will broadcast channels "in the clear" to pave the way for the launch of "Freesat", the satellite equivalent of Freeview.
However, this causes problems with rights such as UEFA Champions League and Hollywood movies due to some coverage in Rep. of Ireland and mainland Europe, but ITV are said to have taken this into account in their recent negotiations.
It also causes some problems with regions, but ITV will probably have an arrangement similar to the BBC.
Interesting stuff. I'd like to see all the ITV regions on the EPG as the BBC ones are. It'd make things a bit easier for those of us who receive the 'wrong' region.
Wouldn't they end up paying more for 16 or so channels (including 2,3 and news), rather than just paying for 4 channels to appear on the EPG?
Or would they not have to pay SKY anything, and therefore they'd have £17/£13million extra to use?
NG
(P.S. Why do ITV pay Sky to broadcast ITV1 - but Sky pay ITV to broadcast ITV2?)
ITV2 is not encrypted FTV on Sky Digital (as ITV1, C4 and Five are) - it is encrypted as part of their pay-TV operation. This means Sky pay ITV a small amount for every subscriber who receives ITV2 via Sky Digital - offsetting the amount that ITV pay Sky for encryption and regionalisation services.
It seems Sky are keen to keep ITV FTV (and encrypted) rather than let them go FTA - as once the BBC and ITV are both FTA it becomes more feasible to market non-Sky satellite receivers in the UK - which wouldn't be upgradeable to Sky for subscription easily.
The Sky Freesat system is their answer (albeit a relaunch of an offer that ran for years with little publicity and BBC subsidy) - as it puts a Sky subscription capable receiver in FTV households - and allows them to plug their services (as you have to surf through encrypted stuff to reach the FTV stuff!)
noggin
Founding member
Brekkie Boy posted:
(P.S. Why do ITV pay Sky to broadcast ITV1 - but Sky pay ITV to broadcast ITV2?)
ITV2 is not encrypted FTV on Sky Digital (as ITV1, C4 and Five are) - it is encrypted as part of their pay-TV operation. This means Sky pay ITV a small amount for every subscriber who receives ITV2 via Sky Digital - offsetting the amount that ITV pay Sky for encryption and regionalisation services.
It seems Sky are keen to keep ITV FTV (and encrypted) rather than let them go FTA - as once the BBC and ITV are both FTA it becomes more feasible to market non-Sky satellite receivers in the UK - which wouldn't be upgradeable to Sky for subscription easily.
The Sky Freesat system is their answer (albeit a relaunch of an offer that ran for years with little publicity and BBC subsidy) - as it puts a Sky subscription capable receiver in FTV households - and allows them to plug their services (as you have to surf through encrypted stuff to reach the FTV stuff!)