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CARLTON continuity arrangements

(December 2001)

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LS
Larry Scutta
Quote:
Nick Harvey on 2:32 pm on Dec. 30, 2001

It would also have done the, then, independent Westcountry; which HTV had previously grabbed, almost by accident, by being fairly close geographically and actually having the capacity at the point that TSW had a paddy and wouldn't sell the old Derry's Cross studios to Westcountry.  Westcountry had to go in what was, almost, a Portakabin on the industrial estate at Plympton and the last thing they wanted to get involved in was transmission.



Not exactly how things happened, Westcountry never intended to move into the old TSW studios, their studio centre was to be in the (then new) Barbican development in Plymouth city centre.

However because the court case brought by TSW held back confirmation of the license win until early 1992 they weren't able to use the Barbican. Can't remember if this was due to time constraints (the out-of-town Plympton building being quicker to build than the fancy one in town) or because the area of the Barbican had gone to someone else.

Due to space and time constraints transmission was put out to tender. Hence also the number of regional studios were reduced at launch and the sub-opts were late in coming - all of which was sanctioned by the ITV
NH
Nick Harvey Founding member
I'll happily run with that explanation, Larry. I think my precis got a bit too good, as I was REALLY on another subject.

However, didn't Westcountry always intend to go elsewhere because TSW had originally said they wouldn't sell the building?
LO
logiebaird
enjoying this forum ..!
someone somewhere (Mr Videowall?) said that carlton announcers were the same as lwt's ...as far as I know both stations have completely seperate announcing teams -
transmission is the same across both though -
how long before one ITV announcing team I wonder?
MD
Marc Dawson
Just a few questions..

When HTV west got the carlton idents (with wales) they also got the now/next captions with the harts/stars wipe between the pix. Meridian's presentation suite isn't confugured to do this...are we sure that HTV west is still there??? Indead, all the junctions, break bumbers and idents are handled diffrently - watch the space that carlton give for the continuity to 'breath' between the programmes, while meridian just crash into the next event

Off topic a bit, but why would channel need a feed via fibre...it has the carlton london on DSAT if it wishes??
SH
Steve Hyden
The Carlton London and LWT Announcers are indeed different:

Carlton - Mark Lipscomb (Senior Announcer - used to be with Thames and probably one of the best announcers in the country), Graham Bannerman (used to announce on Galaxy on BSB), David Allan (former BBC Announcer in the 80's and Radio 2 Country Jock) and Fiona (surname escapes me) - she is also the voice of Carlton Cinema. They also have two other male announcers one of whom used to work for Granada during their in-vision days (a youngish chap who always sounds half asleep).

LWT - Trish Bertram - the female voice of ITV, also used to announce for Galaxy on BSB, Greg Thompsett (formally announcer of The Family Channel and QVC Presenter), Andy Marriott (Carlton Central Announcer adn Jock on Saga Radio in the Midlands) - they also have another male and female voice.

Steve

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logiebaird on 8:21 pm on Dec. 30, 2001
enjoying this forum ..!
someone somewhere (Mr Videowall?) said that carlton announcers were the same as lwt's  ...as far as I know both stations  have  completely seperate  announcing teams  -
transmission is the same across both though -
how long before one ITV announcing team I wonder?
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NG
noggin Founding member
Quote:
Marc Dawson on 8:35 pm on Dec. 30, 2001
Just a few questions..

When HTV west got the carlton idents (with wales) they also got the now/next captions with the harts/stars wipe between the pix.  Meridian's presentation suite isn't confugured to do this...are we sure that HTV west is still there??? Indead, all the junctions, break bumbers and idents are handled diffrently - watch the space that carlton give for the continuity to 'breath' between the programmes, while meridian just crash into the next event

Off topic a bit, but why would channel need a feed via fibre...it has the carlton london on DSAT if it wishes??


Sorry - the Astra DSat feed of Carlton London is not acceptable as a broadcast feed for a few reasons. One it is MPEG2-ed at emission not distribution rate and would become even mushier if it were received at Jersey, decoded to baseband, processed through Channel's Pres, and then re-encoded to MPEG2, again at emission rate... Yuck!

Also the DSat feed is mixed aspect ratio, and I doubt Channel want to have to install loads of ARCs or put ITV network out 4:3 centre cut locally.

The 4:3 analogue transmission feed of Meridian is still the most elegant solution - especially if Channel don't go 16:9 (cos they don't have DTT) and don't want to have to deal with non-local ad playout.

As for the Meridian/Anglia vs HTV West continuity from joint playout - I believe it is a problem - but others here are far better equipped to cover this than I am - coming as I do from a non-commercial background...
NH
Nick Harvey Founding member
Not Greg Thompsett, Steve, GLEN Thompsett, originally trained by ME, many, many years ago.

He won't be pleased by the 'many, many', but as he still owes me 50p for a drink, he'll have to put up with it!
SH
Steve Hyden
Well done for spotting the deliberate mistake Nick <cough>


Steve


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Nick Harvey on 11:39 pm on Dec. 30, 2001
Not Greg Thompsett, Steve, GLEN Thompsett, originally trained by ME, many, many years ago.

He won't be pleased by the 'many, many', but as he still owes me 50p for a drink, he'll have to put up with it!
LO
logiebaird
Trained Glen as an announcer Nick? where was that? TVS?
NH
Nick Harvey Founding member
Now, you're at it again folks, DON'T read things literally.

Did I say trained 'as an announcer'? No!

All right then, as I'm in a generous mood, try 'trained as a radio presenter', that could give another hint or two.
MB
Mark B
Quote:
Steve Hyden on 10:20 pm on Dec. 30, 2001

Carlton - They also have two other male announcers one of whom used to work for Granada during their in-vision days (a youngish chap who always sounds half asleep).


That's right. His name is John MacKenzie. I was sure surprised when, after moving from Granadaland in 1995, he finally turned up saying 'and now on Carlton'! In that sleepy, whispery, mouth-watery tone that he has. He sounds like he's whispering in a cat's ear...!
MB
Mark B
Who can categorically confirm to me the name of 'Mr. Central' - you know the chap - authoritative but amiable, always on Carlton Central region's announcements and trailers (well, about 80% of the time).

He's been doing the job for years and I think is the best continuity announcer on British Television.

I *think* his name is Stephen Tomlinson but nobody has been able to confirm/disprove!! I remember that name from the credits of 'Blockbusters' and I'm sure he did the V/O of the Gold Run prizes, and also for Family Fortunes.

I'm pretty certain about the first name because in 1989 Family Fortunes changed to a *different* Steve (Rhodes), an Irish bloke, to announce the prizes.

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