BBC News

To be honest, I don't really care who breaks the news fastest, surely its the quality and depth of the reporting which matters. I mean if channel X broke the news really quickly and didn't go into much depth, and channel Y broke the news slightly later, but went into more depth with lives and all the rest of it, surely you'd want channel Y rather than X?

Youve said you are not just talking about presentation but all youve mainly talked about was presentation e.g. swishes, live things, astons, none authoritive presentation etc.

Firstly, this is a presentation forum.

Secondly, I have tried my best to point out that my views on Sky News/News 24 are not solely based on presentation. All I am saying is that Sky News' style of presentation appears to me to be cheap and tacky. They have attempted to use the BBC's simple style but it hasn't worked at all. Sky have also tried to take an American approach to things.

And I have mentioned non-presentational aspects as well. I have said that Sky News coverage is excellent - they are resourceful and their correspondents are all very good. But, as I have said, in my view, even Sky News does not compare to the BBC. The BBC have the reputation and knowledge (and I know you are going to turn round and say this is the case with Sky News, but I do not agree).

Youve said BBC is authoritive and they have varied specialist programmes but you didnt once talk about the way the news is reported in lives or reports on either channel - the main point of a news channel.

I said that BBC News 24 now has the advantage. In my view, Sky's decision to withdraw feature programmes was a bad one. If you like rolling news 24/7, fair enough. I don't. Therefore, I prefer News 24, which provides a wide range in programming as well as news.

In terms of reports and lives, I can watch either. I like the BBC's formal approach to things - their correspondents are world renowned and in-depth. Sky also has an excellent array of reporters. I prefer the formality of BBC - but I can't win really, because someone will soon say they are 'stuffy'! Again, the BBC's lives are more formal. It's only a matter of time before Sky take the American route - at the end of every live, it's 'Back to you, Dan' or something - I hate it personally.

Also what dont you like about FOX News's presentation. I dont mind watching FOX news and can find it refreshing as aposed to the BBCs reporting and presentation.

Fox News, as I have said, is entertainment - not news. OK to a point, but Fox News just makes me giggle every time I watch. Usually, it's some blonde sitting on a stool in front of the American flag with a great big massive 'Live' bug (on top of the Stars and Stripes, naturally) in the corner. Sorry - not for me.

Basically, I prefer News 24 for a combination of reasons I have explained to the best of my ability. I think it all boils down to their formal presentation (the P word), although I also believe the BBC is a much better organisation for reporting news events.

Is that OK?

That is a pathetic statement to make - does this mean they are the best channel. In your opinion, probably yes.

Also, your comment about the BBC's obsession with royals earlier was also stupid. Think about what you are going to write before you type it please!

[quote] itsrobert on 10:27 pm on Dec. 30, 2001


Err, and I'd care to remind you, Robert, that it was actually Sky News who secured - in their words - a world exclusive in being the first to report that war had broken out.

I do think News 24 is overly smug and seems to stick to certain guidelines that are never allowed to be broken. It's so bloody boring. Yes, at the end of the day news is just bloody news, but if I am going to be subjected to sitting through the horror and stupidity of watching world leaders declare a sodding war I at least want to watch coverage that's not so **** poor that It's risking putting me into a **** ing coma!!

Rob, Gary - shut up for **** 's sake! My god you'd think you'd never seen anything other than the oh so bloody wonderful BBC News 24. Perhaps if you can cope with the concept of watching news from something other than the BBC you'd be able to make some sort of comparison, but until then for a sake of my (rapidly dimishing) sanity - shut the **** up!

That is a pathetic statement to make - does this mean they are the best channel. In your opinion, probably yes.

Also, your comment about the BBC's obsession with royals earlier was also stupid. Think about what you are going to write before you type it please!

Why can't people accept that some prefer Sky News for reasons, and others prefer BBC News 24 for their reasons?

It always escalates into some pathetic shouting match: 'My astons are better than your astons!', 'Who was the first to declare war?'

It's like a bloody playgroup!

And why are people (chesh, hint) associating BBC News 24 with posh, stuck-up, 'stuffy' viewers? And what does 'stuffy' mean for God's sake?!

Well excuse me for having a vocabulary.

Perhaps you should get one, I'm sure they sell them at the BBC Shop.

Do you not think that I am little bit tired of hearing people make comments with no foundation whatsoever? That's what makes this place sound like a playgroup - people blurting out stupid comments that a) no-one gives a toss about and b) are a load of bull**** anyway.

How I wish some people in here were better informed and actually knew what they were talking about.

Well, I like News 24. Anyone want to fight me? http://web.ukonline.co.uk/tv.home/forum/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Well I like both in different ways (well just shoot me)
I like BBC NEWS 24 for its quality reporting - more internationally focussed, when the story is known they handle it best. SKY NEWS on the other hand is the best place for breaking news - I like the presenters - although some are a bit iffy as is BBC NEWS 24 and also it is more friendly and makes the news easier to understand.

Things to make SKY NEWS better - smaller graphics, bring back the programme names and sack Francis Wilson or make him go into rehab - he sounds stoned 24/7 - get rid of the silly sound effects. What constitutes Breaking News AND a Sky News Flash at the same time is beyond me.

Things to make BBC NEWS 24 better - make it a bit more friendlier, more widescreen cameras, bring back Anna Jones into weekdays and get rid of that blonde woman with the boring voice - also perhaps move the sports presenter onto the main desk which would allow for some friendlier banter like with the weather presenters. Also sack that Business news presenter on at 8:30 - too posh.

How hasnt it worked?? Sky News's viewing figures are still much higher than News 24s even though N24 gets free promos on BBC One and Two several times per day.



Sky dont need programmes like Talking Movies as you can watch these programmes 24 hours a day on Sky Movies and Movies Active. BBC News 24 is a news channel so they should have news instead of Talking Movies etc.



Doesnt the back to dan, mike, E.D. or whatever stuff make the channel more friendly and less stuck up and arrogant?



Fox News to me seems more like a 'BBC's Breakfast' type of programme with abit of nes on the ours and interviews going into more depth of news stories for the rest of the time.

Overall in my opinion Sky News is Live news while BBC 24 is more news features and news in details.

Ste

I think BBC News 24 is not just the 'formal' channel. It is not all the time 100% formal. The presenters have a laugh and a joke when handing over for sport and business etc but tackle the subjects they are reporting about without any bias and with great journalistic style.

I think we should come to the conclusion that as they are both different in style and presentation, we should not compare the two - but people generally do don't they - me for one?

BBC unbias??? I can think of numerous examples to prove this statement isnt true- prescot punch reporting, sept 11th question time to name just a two!

Ste