JO
Along with the overall repositioning of the channel, the launch of CBBC on Choice also co-incided with Choice's move away from the "theme of 3" ident series to one based on heart designs only. So the specially made CBBC idents would have no longer complemented the wider channel's set, which was obviously the idea.
Can't believe they didn't see fit to use those idents again in some way after 2000? What a waste - but thanks ever so much for the video.
What a fab thread this is/has been!
What a fab thread this is/has been!
Along with the overall repositioning of the channel, the launch of CBBC on Choice also co-incided with Choice's move away from the "theme of 3" ident series to one based on heart designs only. So the specially made CBBC idents would have no longer complemented the wider channel's set, which was obviously the idea.
IS
CBBC's output was only limited to 4:3 in the afternoons/holiday morning when they were broadcasting live. At these times all CBBC programmes were played from Studio 9 so they had more flexibility over timings and do credit squeezes etc. The problem came when there was a mix of 4:3 and 16:9 programmes as the switching would have been tricky. Therefore the widescreen ones came from the normal presentation area and 4:3 from the studio which wasn't ideal either. I think eventually there was a tipping point and the situation reversed. Studio 9 was widescreen compatible but it was only used in that mode when pre-recording links.
CBBC Choice didn't have that problem as I'm pretty sure there were no in vision links, and if there were they would have been pre-recorded. There weren't that many new programmes made specifically for CBBC Choice, the only one I can remember is the Dog and Dinosaur Show which of course was widescreen.
CBBC on Choice was also mostly in 4:3, the links were made in 16:9 but of course all the archive programming was in 4:3 so they didn't bother switching... I think the only exception was Tweenies
Hold on; wasn't CBBC output only in 4:3 until late 2001? If so, why is that ident in widescreen? Did CBBC Choice broadcast in widescreen?
CBBC's output was only limited to 4:3 in the afternoons/holiday morning when they were broadcasting live. At these times all CBBC programmes were played from Studio 9 so they had more flexibility over timings and do credit squeezes etc. The problem came when there was a mix of 4:3 and 16:9 programmes as the switching would have been tricky. Therefore the widescreen ones came from the normal presentation area and 4:3 from the studio which wasn't ideal either. I think eventually there was a tipping point and the situation reversed. Studio 9 was widescreen compatible but it was only used in that mode when pre-recording links.
CBBC Choice didn't have that problem as I'm pretty sure there were no in vision links, and if there were they would have been pre-recorded. There weren't that many new programmes made specifically for CBBC Choice, the only one I can remember is the Dog and Dinosaur Show which of course was widescreen.
CBBC on Choice was also mostly in 4:3, the links were made in 16:9 but of course all the archive programming was in 4:3 so they didn't bother switching... I think the only exception was Tweenies
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VM
Thanks for that, Inspector Sands.
A member on Digital Spy Forums has uploaded two screenshots of the exact same frame of the exact same show with the two different BBC Four DOGs, remarking the transparency levels have changed:
http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=qwadiilywwwvowt
http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=q36lb1cq668oug8
A member on Digital Spy Forums has uploaded two screenshots of the exact same frame of the exact same show with the two different BBC Four DOGs, remarking the transparency levels have changed:
http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=qwadiilywwwvowt
http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=q36lb1cq668oug8
JA
james
That must have took time to get the same frame of the programme in those images!
DA
You'd have thought they could spend a bit of time selecting a more interesting frame though.
That must have took time to get the same frame of the programme in those images!
You'd have thought they could spend a bit of time selecting a more interesting frame though.
J1
CBBC are currently showing Wallace and Gromit: The Wrong Trousers in 14:3. But are still using the 16:9 dog.
http://i612.photobucket.com/albums/tt201/J10cool10/WG.png
http://i612.photobucket.com/albums/tt201/J10cool10/WG.png
MI
I think that cable works differently to DTT and DSAT in that respect. There is a separate video-stream that is allocated to channels which are offair. In the Telewest days this had sound, now it's just a silent caption but I'm pretty sure it is a video stream rather than a caption generated in the box, either way it's very low bandwidth.
It's only recently that you've been unable to watch CBBC on the BBC3 channel and viceversa on Virgin - up until approx 6 months ago, I could tune to BBC3 and watch CBBC quite easily.
I know if you connect a normal DVB-C tuner to Virgin's network the streams for the channels show both channels at all times, so it must be the EPG software cutting the channels at the expected times. On Sky and DSat where the PID's change they can no longer find video on the PID specified for each channel and therefore think the channel is off air.
I think that cable works differently to DTT and DSAT in that respect. There is a separate video-stream that is allocated to channels which are offair. In the Telewest days this had sound, now it's just a silent caption but I'm pretty sure it is a video stream rather than a caption generated in the box, either way it's very low bandwidth.
It's only recently that you've been unable to watch CBBC on the BBC3 channel and viceversa on Virgin - up until approx 6 months ago, I could tune to BBC3 and watch CBBC quite easily.
MI
Which box do you have?
Silver Samsung.
http://is02.thegumtree.com/image/big/47546534.jpg
It's only recently that you've been unable to watch CBBC on the BBC3 channel and viceversa on Virgin - up until approx 6 months ago, I could tune to BBC3 and watch CBBC quite easily.
Which box do you have?
Silver Samsung.
http://is02.thegumtree.com/image/big/47546534.jpg