BBC 4 will look like BBC 2!

Yep, the square box logos have been around since the introduction of the corporate image in 1997. So, in one form or another, the square boxes have been out and about for five years already.

Equally, the rectangle itself appears to be of a 4:3 size - seems a bit of an odd choice for a mostly 16:9 channel.

I'm also irritated at the way the regional variations have been sqeezed into the box - it looks so cluttered... and those abbreviations: 'Yorks / Lincs' - and worst, 'N I'. I've not yet seen how 'North East And Cumbria' is abbreviated. Can someone enlighten me?

This is the reason most of us thought that when the article in The Times about the new 2s appeared and FISH was shown, we just thought the newspaper had stuck the purple box on the ident, we didn't think they would actually use the box. I always remember looking in the EXPRESS and seeing the boxes. The box looks good in 4:3 but horrible in 16:9 so I always watch in 4:3 and on a 4:3 TV of course!

It wasn't The Sun, they don't use logos. I think you may mean the Daily Star.

My local paper, the Hull Daily Mail, (http://www.thisishull.co.uk) uses the box style too, but the box is missing i.e. white, and the writing is black, for both channels. They'll probably change the colours when BBC1 changes though.

Talking of which, they still use the multicoloured 4 logo!

(Edited by SpiringUnhacked at 11:18 am on Jan. 25, 2002)

The Radio Times used these boxes too originally.
However, the BBC ONE box had the balloon material for its background (so it wasn't completely red) and the BBC TWO box was Turquoise (which was the staple colour of the 1991-97 2's)

Bah! I was hoping the site I quoted had the logos on, but they don't even list the right region for ITV! (It lists Central, which is odd, because Yorkshire is the correct one!)

I don't like the idea of there being a 'BBC style' and a 'BBC news style' that aren't one and the same thing.

I like the box arrangement a lot and would like to see it extended even to the three newsie channels.

Interesting - last time I looked at that page, it had a B B C FOUR logo at the top. In fact, it's been archived by www.archive.org:

http://web.archive.org/web/20011102014543/http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/

http://web.archive.org/web/20011102014543/http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/assets/banner.gif

(Edited by Retron at 4:33 pm on Jan. 25, 2002)

I think the style of two is good & that the purple box has improved the trailers (taking up only a quater of the screen where as the old style used to take up about half of it) but the main problem I have is the colour the yellow does not work well, blue or green whould have looked much better brilliant mock by the way a chance of some more for BBC 4 or BBC 1 & 3

I think the style of two is good & that the purple box has improved the trailers (taking up only a quater of the screen where as the old style used to take up about half of it) but the main problem I have is the colour the yellow does not work well, blue or green whould have looked much better brilliant mock by the way a chance of some more for BBC 4 or BBC 1 & 3

Absolutely. As a channel promoted as 'Radio 4 on TV' I am certainly looking forward to it. However, simply a rebranded BBC Knowledge with a news programme and the odd debate thrown in will NOT constitute as this 'Radio 4 on TV'. Radio 4 broadcasts some of the finest comedy in the UK - I lie awake at night worrying that BBC FOUR may be dull if they don't get the idea of Radio 4 into it.

All the News 24 mocks seem to have been in the style
|B|B|C|
NEWS 24

but personly I think it would look like the regional idents

i.e.
|B|B|C|
NEWS
24

or go for the whole 2W thing and call it BBC N24, although its unlikely they will effectively rename the channel in my opinion