JD
JDN
The presenters would have to sit on one side of the sofa with the guests just on one side.
DT
I'm not entirely sure what you mean, are you referring to DTL or Sofa interviews? Though with either I don't see how the set would inhibit them, if anything cameras have more space to move around with this rostrum.
From my reckoning this is roughly what the studio dimensions are.
Whoever picked this area to be a television studio needs a talking to, it's ridiculous. Does anybody actually know why a studio for BBC North West wasn't factored into the building designs.
A few other colour schemes...
Newsround - for those occasions when their normal studio is out of use.
and when the studio is switched off for the night.
The set may well fit, but I'm not sure any cameras would... To get the reverse shots for interviewees the cameras tuck right around to the left and right of the sofa, with this design the ones on the right would see the back wall and the ones on the left would see the ones on the right?
I'm not entirely sure what you mean, are you referring to DTL or Sofa interviews? Though with either I don't see how the set would inhibit them, if anything cameras have more space to move around with this rostrum.
Wow - these look fantastic, well done. I've been (very slowly) working on a new set design for Salford too and I've been trying hard to get the size/shape of the studio right, as I think my previous efforts have been slightly too big, and certainly to me it looks like it would just about fit!
From my reckoning this is roughly what the studio dimensions are.
Whoever picked this area to be a television studio needs a talking to, it's ridiculous. Does anybody actually know why a studio for BBC North West wasn't factored into the building designs.
A few other colour schemes...
Newsround - for those occasions when their normal studio is out of use.
and when the studio is switched off for the night.
DF
From my reckoning this is roughly what the studio dimensions are.
Whoever picked this area to be a television studio needs a talking to, it's ridiculous. Does anybody actually know why a studio for BBC North West wasn't factored into the building designs.
It looks like you've worked it out using some more accurate data than I have done
My guesstimation had the the 7.5m section as 6.4m, and the 2.5m section as 1.3m, but other than that it's very close.
I can only guess that studio area was chosen as it provided a good view, and then ended up being converted into a more conventional studio space after a late change of mind. Unfortunately, as you know the curved glass wall and low ceiling height are very limiting!
From my reckoning this is roughly what the studio dimensions are.
Whoever picked this area to be a television studio needs a talking to, it's ridiculous. Does anybody actually know why a studio for BBC North West wasn't factored into the building designs.
It looks like you've worked it out using some more accurate data than I have done
My guesstimation had the the 7.5m section as 6.4m, and the 2.5m section as 1.3m, but other than that it's very close.
I can only guess that studio area was chosen as it provided a good view, and then ended up being converted into a more conventional studio space after a late change of mind. Unfortunately, as you know the curved glass wall and low ceiling height are very limiting!
DT
Your guess for that area is as good as mine for that area, there's nothing to say I'm right.
My guesstimation had the the 7.5m section as 6.4m, and the 2.5m section as 1.3m, but other than that it's very close.
Your guess for that area is as good as mine for that area, there's nothing to say I'm right.
BR
Are there any pics of the space before it was fitted out - specifically with the view. Sadly TV shows are very reluctant nowadays to have a real view and I doubt Breakfast would want to risk repeating the perceived mistake of Daybreak.
P.S. From your plan I'd have thought the cameras would have more space to play with considering you've rotated the sofa, not less.
P.S. From your plan I'd have thought the cameras would have more space to play with considering you've rotated the sofa, not less.
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Granada Reports has what looks like a smaller space, with the same height limitations, but it looks so much better on-screen.
DF
I think the Granada Reports is actually a bigger space overall - I don't think it's quite as wide, but there's more space on each side of the desk which I expect makes camera positioning easier when they use the newsroom view. Plus it looks to be a rectangular space unlike the BBC studio which has the curved wall, meaning there's a much narrower end of the studio.
In some ways I think it's a shame the BBC didn't use the window view, but they were no doubt worried about the "Daybreak" effect with nasty reflections, and of course they don't have the luxury of the newsroom view behind them. Breakfast really does deserve a better, more flexible studio space!
Granada Reports has what looks like a smaller space, with the same height limitations, but it looks so much better on-screen.
I think the Granada Reports is actually a bigger space overall - I don't think it's quite as wide, but there's more space on each side of the desk which I expect makes camera positioning easier when they use the newsroom view. Plus it looks to be a rectangular space unlike the BBC studio which has the curved wall, meaning there's a much narrower end of the studio.
In some ways I think it's a shame the BBC didn't use the window view, but they were no doubt worried about the "Daybreak" effect with nasty reflections, and of course they don't have the luxury of the newsroom view behind them. Breakfast really does deserve a better, more flexible studio space!
DT
I think the Granada Reports is actually a bigger space overall - I don't think it's quite as wide, but there's more space on each side of the desk which I expect makes camera positioning easier when they use the newsroom view. Plus it looks to be a rectangular space unlike the BBC studio which has the curved wall, meaning there's a much narrower end of the studio.
In some ways I think it's a shame the BBC didn't use the window view, but they were no doubt worried about the "Daybreak" effect with nasty reflections, and of course they don't have the luxury of the newsroom view behind them. Breakfast really does deserve a better, more flexible studio space!
It'd be interesting to see what is behind the '7.5 x 2.5' indentation as if that wasn't there the studio would be much more flexible. Feasibly it could be moved back as those aren't supporting walls but one expects it's something like the gallery so it could provide an issue. But again, there are other places in the building where they could have put the studio without the bizarre acute corner and still have a window view.
Theoretically, though costly, they could create a multi purpose set in the small main studio to be used by Breakfast, NWT, Football Focus, Final Score and MOTD. The features of both sets are similar - LED lighting, rostra, large format displays and with only small variations in furniture and colour scheme the programming can still retain their own identities.
Granada Reports has what looks like a smaller space, with the same height limitations, but it looks so much better on-screen.
I think the Granada Reports is actually a bigger space overall - I don't think it's quite as wide, but there's more space on each side of the desk which I expect makes camera positioning easier when they use the newsroom view. Plus it looks to be a rectangular space unlike the BBC studio which has the curved wall, meaning there's a much narrower end of the studio.
In some ways I think it's a shame the BBC didn't use the window view, but they were no doubt worried about the "Daybreak" effect with nasty reflections, and of course they don't have the luxury of the newsroom view behind them. Breakfast really does deserve a better, more flexible studio space!
It'd be interesting to see what is behind the '7.5 x 2.5' indentation as if that wasn't there the studio would be much more flexible. Feasibly it could be moved back as those aren't supporting walls but one expects it's something like the gallery so it could provide an issue. But again, there are other places in the building where they could have put the studio without the bizarre acute corner and still have a window view.
Theoretically, though costly, they could create a multi purpose set in the small main studio to be used by Breakfast, NWT, Football Focus, Final Score and MOTD. The features of both sets are similar - LED lighting, rostra, large format displays and with only small variations in furniture and colour scheme the programming can still retain their own identities.
BA
Hi. Personally been in this studio and this design would not work! The studio is so small. Where the studio originally was mean't to be was on the ground floor with windows but BBC thought that people may not be so well behaved outside. This design is great and would easily fit into that space downstairs. That way the cameras would fit and it would look really spacious. (There would be some head room aswell)
DT
I disagree with this, as discussed before this set was designed to fit in the minimum possible size of the actual studio space in both floor space and height terms based on the schematics published as part of the planning application. As with all my set mocks utmost care is taken to ensure the most accurate studio size possible. Studios always look smaller in person than they do on camera and these renders are done through a simulated camera with a slight wide angle lens to increase the amount of studio visible and to make the set look larger than it actually is.
Hi. Personally been in this studio and this design would not work! The studio is so small. Where the studio originally was mean't to be was on the ground floor with windows but BBC thought that people may not be so well behaved outside. This design is great and would easily fit into that space downstairs. That way the cameras would fit and it would look really spacious. (There would be some head room aswell)
I disagree with this, as discussed before this set was designed to fit in the minimum possible size of the actual studio space in both floor space and height terms based on the schematics published as part of the planning application. As with all my set mocks utmost care is taken to ensure the most accurate studio size possible. Studios always look smaller in person than they do on camera and these renders are done through a simulated camera with a slight wide angle lens to increase the amount of studio visible and to make the set look larger than it actually is.