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DE
denton
I don't think we've seen the last of the box
JO
Jonny
Seeing the Learning Zone DOG at the start of Sunroof made me wonder if they would have been better off adding a DOGlike logo in the top left corner. Something like this:

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w191/2007TopGearDog/bbc2sunroofdog.jpg
GE
thegeek Founding member
Paul Clark posted:
Copies of idents transferred directly from the CRV Disc have yet to surface online or be offered in private - if anybody has got one of those discs on which BBC idents or other pres bits (like the animations!) were recorded, for goodness sake, let us know - they are obviously about as rare as rocking horse poo!

The actual used discs may be old, but am I right to think the video keeps reasonably well? And component video is obviously much richer and clearer than any footage you'd get off a home-recorded cassette anyways.
I do know of one BBC Two disc (and a player) that's kept in working order for BNCS training in Vale Wing...
CY
cylon6
Okay I'm confused. They just showed Mirror with the original music and box logo! Confused
JO
Jonny
Woa what's going on? Original Mirror with box intact. Last minute change of heart?
PE
Pete Founding member
It would seem they've had a change of heart. Perhaps they've realised it looks rubbish.

I'd have said a big BBC logo on the centre left of sunroof would have been best if anything.
JO
Jonny
Yup, the box is very much alive and well.
SP
Spencer
How very strange. You'd have thought if they'd decided they didn't like the new look, they'd have realised before putting it to air.

Personally I think just using the BBC logo on the current idents would work better than with the box, but not in the bottom right. It just makes no sense when you consider most of the '2's are slightly right of centre as it is to accommodate the box on the left.

Whoever posted the mocks ages ago with the BBC logo vertically centered, and to the left of the 2 had the right idea.

I'm hoping the boxes have reappeared to allow them time to reposition the BBC logo somewhere more sensible.
PE
Pete Founding member
did anyone get a cap of the regions? apparently their sticky back plastic bodge ended up with a big "BBC Scotland" BBC NI" lump covering up the tiny BBC logo in an even rubbisher way than ITV Wales.
FA
fairlie
I'm not a fan of the box, but the way they changed it is even worse.

I think the best thing BBC could do is mix up the best of the past and current idents, which have not changed all that much in style over the years to provide a more varied collection and ditch the box for the old [B] [B] [C] Two bottom caption, but with a slight black shadow/glow to be legible against the light backgrounds lots of the new idents use (see pic below)

http://www.rp-network.com/tvforum/uploads/bbcident.jpg
JO
Jonny
Hymagumba posted:
did anyone get a cap of the regions? apparently their sticky back plastic bodge ended up with a big "BBC Scotland" BBC NI" lump covering up the tiny BBC logo in an even rubbisher way than ITV Wales.

So it could be a return to 'This is BBC Scotland on 2' Laughing

But seriously this no box idea is workable, they just need to find a suitable spot to plonk the BBC logo that will work in all the idents. This will be no mean feat, the difference between the 91-97 set which featured the 2-BBC layout and this set is the 91-97 had the 2 in a fixed position whereas the current 2s are placed all over the shop.

If they are still going ahead with the idea of course...
JO
Jonny
fairlie posted:
I'm not a fan of the box, but the way they changed it is even worse.

I think the best thing BBC could do is mix up the best of the past and current idents, which have not changed all that much in style over the years to provide a more varied collection and ditch the box for the old [B] [B] [C] Two bottom caption, but with a slight black shadow/glow to be legible against the light backgrounds lots of the new idents use (see pic below)

http://www.rp-network.com/tvforum/uploads/bbcident.jpg

Whilst this is a good idea they ruled this out about a year and a half ago when they altered the 2. Yes, the average viewer probably wouldn't notice but it would further dilute the brand values of BBC Two (and I don't think they can be diluted much further at the moment tbh).

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