TV Home Forum

The X Factor and Strictly

Split from New look BBC One - Jan 2017 (September 2017)

This site closed in March 2021 and is now a read-only archive
TL
toby lerone 2016
What's funny is that the BBC News website keeps running stories every week about how Strictly has won "this week's ratings battle", it was one of the main ones on the front page earlier.

I suppose the BBC would kind of wish it was still a bit closer, as when it was a battle and they won, they and all the papers can go on about it. Now it isn't even a battle, nobody mentions it, Strictly doesn't get all the positive winning PR and they have to run a non-story every week themselves instead


To be honest Strictly has been ahead nearly every week since 2011 therefore I don't understand why the BBC News website run articles on this. I mention it on this forum as I think it needs mentioned how well Strictly is doing especially in its 15th series and with all the competition it has nowadays not just from TV and it doesn't show any sign of decline no matter who is hosting it, who judges it or who competes in it.

On another note how poor is entertainment shows on the BBC on Saturday nights outside of Strictly season. Michael McIntyre Show is excellent but is also in the autumn and Mrs Brown's Chat Show did well however this that doesn't fit into the family friendly Strictly bracket and Let it Shine, Let's Sing and Dance for Comic Relief and Pitch Battle have all failed and they haven't yet replaced The Voice.
BR
Brekkie
And everytime a singing show fails they just commission another.
DE
DE88
Andrew Lloyd Webber's theatre casting shows were all good - not to mention that they gave us Connie Fisher and Jodie Prenger. Thumbs up

Then Talpa's singing show arrived on the scene...

(Admittedly, this may have been completely unrelated. And I did enjoy this show at first, too. But you don't even hear of the visually impaired Ulster lass these days, do you?)
MA
madmusician
It saddened me how poorly they did Pitch Battle - there's a great a capella show waiting to be made, but sadly that wasn't it (perhaps Sky will hit the jackpot with Sing, which starts this Friday). The format was clunky, the talent miscast and it was all horribly overproduced. I don't suppose it will return for a second series. Nor, unless it receives a major reworking, does it deserve to.
BR
Brekkie
Already axed I think.

Two more announced singing talent shows to come though - The Chart with Zoe Ball and Roman Kemp and Altogether Now with Rob Beckett. Both will flop I'm sure.
AN
Andrew Founding member
Neither Roman Kemp or Rob Beckett are the sort of names that will attract the large number of over 65 viewers that flock to the majority of BBC One's biggest weekend shows.
CA
Cando
And everytime a singing show fails they just commission another.

Only 1 show with any singing commissioned this year.
Already axed I think.

Two more announced singing talent shows to come though - The Chart with Zoe Ball and Roman Kemp and Altogether Now with Rob Beckett. Both will flop I'm sure.


The Chart was a pilot and hasn't been commissioned.
All together now is more of a 'Don't forget the lyrics' style gameshow with a cash prize. It isn't a talent show afaik
CA
Cando

Now it isn't even a battle, nobody mentions it, Strictly doesn't get all the positive winning PR and they have to run a non-story every week themselves instead


Quite a lot of coverage last week in the papers including a 2 page spread in the Mail about ITV having to move it if ratings fall even further. I see they've already pushed it back to 8.15 this weekend.

Saying we have this thread I will post the ratings for the 2 shows every week

Strictly Come Dancing - 9.28m (Peak 10.16m at 8pm)

X Factor - 4.97m (Peak 5.78m at 9.10pm)
* Includes +1



I'm not surprised the ITV heartland audience must be throughly sick of singing shows.

January to March -The Voice
March to June- Britain's Got Talent (but mostly singers)
June to July- The Voice kids
Sept to December - The X Factor
GM
Gary McEwan
Cando posted:

Now it isn't even a battle, nobody mentions it, Strictly doesn't get all the positive winning PR and they have to run a non-story every week themselves instead


Quite a lot of coverage last week in the papers including a 2 page spread in the Mail about ITV having to move it if ratings fall even further. I see they've already pushed it back to 8.15 this weekend.

Saying we have this thread I will post the ratings for the 2 shows every week

Strictly Come Dancing - 9.28m (Peak 10.16m at 8pm)

X Factor - 4.97m (Peak 5.78m at 9.10pm)
* Includes +1



I'm not surprised the ITV heartland audience must be throughly sick of singing shows.

January to March -The Voice
March to June- Britain's Got Talent (but mostly singers)
June to July- The Voice kids
Sept to December - The X Factor


Thank god Dancing On Ice is coming back in the new year that's all I can say...
AN
Andrew Founding member
BGT isn't "mostly singers"

Also you assume an "ITV heartland viewer" didn't watch The Voice when it was on BBC One and have only now just discovered it.

19 days later

WL
W1LL
Just put on the X Factor for the first time in a while and, good grief, I thought I was watching parody of American product placement. Countless camera angles to include the Turkish Airlines logo, as well as the Air Lingus logo at every possibility.

I suppose that was fair enough until when one of the groups arrived at their destination they were greeted with a random man brandishing a phone with a huge 'Three' logo plastered over it proudly exclaiming "Here's a phone from Three to call Sharon with". It was the most ham-fisted attempt at product placement I have ever seen.
LL
Larry the Loafer
Just put on the X Factor for the first time in a while and, good grief, I thought I was watching parody of American product placement. Countless camera angles to include the Turkish Airlines logo, as well as the Air Lingus logo at every possibility.

I suppose that was fair enough until when one of the groups arrived at their destination they were greeted with a random man brandishing a phone with a huge 'Three' logo plastered over it proudly exclaiming "Here's a phone from Three to call Sharon with". It was the most ham-fisted attempt at product placement I have ever seen.


I'd love to see that for myself but I don't think I could stomach scrubbing through two hours of it.

Newer posts