DB
You would think so, however with the tight turnarounds, the Online Editor/Creative Assistant would have to do them manually at the last minute. (Can get quite busy and a total ball ache from experience). ITV has fairly recently automated their promo endboards:
https://www.cantemo.com/casestudies/itv-creative-modernisation/
God knows how the workflow works with US networks that prefer the endboards to be show-centric. But this endboard looks like it was produced outside Creative.
https://www.cantemo.com/casestudies/itv-creative-modernisation/
God knows how the workflow works with US networks that prefer the endboards to be show-centric. But this endboard looks like it was produced outside Creative.
JV
James Vertigan
Founding member
Item currently going out on Points of View featuring a viewer moaning about having to switch from BBC One HD to BBC One SD to watch his regional news.
LS
Lou Scannon
Item currently going out on Points of View featuring a viewer moaning about having to switch from BBC One HD to BBC One SD to watch his regional news.
Well, hasn't it been about 7 years (give or take however many months) since both BBC One HD and ITV(1) HD launched?
To any "average viewers" who happen to care enough to tune into the HD rather than the SD channel and also happen to care about watching regional news, the fact that there is still absolutely no English regional news on BBC One HD after nearly three-quarters of a decade must look mightily pathetic. Ditto for those particular ITV(1) HD viewers whose correct region/sub-region isn't yet available (e.g. Birmingham news for viewers in Penzance, anyone? Or Kent news for viewers in Banbury, etc etc. )
I'm staring to think that Lord Lucan will turn up alive and well, before BBC One HD English Regions happens...
:-(
A former member
Very true - and at the same time, it is equally baffling for those who *do* receive the correct ITV region in HD, ie if ITV can do it, why can’t the BBC?
JV
James Vertigan
Founding member
www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b097sfb9/points-of-view-2017-episode-15 for those who missed it - skip to 06:35 - and try not to get upset by the viewer's use of the incorrect title "Look North West"!
Last edited by James Vertigan on 1 October 2017 9:18pm
LS
Lou Scannon
Keeping the "incorrect title" theme going, I see...
WI
I totally agree. I have no issues with anyone of any background doing any job, but they MUST be able to do the job! Speaking correctly and with a friendly tone is vital for the job as continuity announcer. Getting the job because of their ethnicity is appalling. There are millions of black people who can speak properly. You wouldn't give a blind man a job as a knife thrower just to tick a diversity box!
I see one of the new BBC One announcers got a bit of a kicking on Points of View yesterday. Kudos to the subtitlers for captioning "The Funderball numbers are confirmed as..."
You can watch the justification on iPlayer. Needless to say it was the usual 'reflect the diversity of the UK'. I'm all for regional accents on the channel (I can't hide my northern voice!) but they should at least pronounce words right, and make it sound like they're not just reading from a script.
It's fine tonight though, the guy that usually pops up on BBC Two is on the big channel.
You can watch the justification on iPlayer. Needless to say it was the usual 'reflect the diversity of the UK'. I'm all for regional accents on the channel (I can't hide my northern voice!) but they should at least pronounce words right, and make it sound like they're not just reading from a script.
It's fine tonight though, the guy that usually pops up on BBC Two is on the big channel.
I totally agree. I have no issues with anyone of any background doing any job, but they MUST be able to do the job! Speaking correctly and with a friendly tone is vital for the job as continuity announcer. Getting the job because of their ethnicity is appalling. There are millions of black people who can speak properly. You wouldn't give a blind man a job as a knife thrower just to tick a diversity box!
Last edited by Wicko on 2 October 2017 12:32am
WI
According to the probable job description inwhich most people are expected to adhere to. If you applied for a job as a choir master but could read music well but was tone deaf, is it really right that you'd get the job over someone else better qualified? Or does skin colour have a lot to do with things these days?
According to the probable job description inwhich most people are expected to adhere to. If you applied for a job as a choir master but could read music well but was tone deaf, is it really right that you'd get the job over someone else better qualified? Or does skin colour have a lot to do with things these days?
WI
No - I'm talking about a decent standard of pronunciation in a professional broadcast environment. Thanks for your contribution.
It's part of his regional accent. In his accent the pronunciation is correct - there's no need to hold him to a prestige accent whose full use has almost completely died out.
I'm pretty sure every part of the UK use th to start the letter three and not f and regional accents doesn't equate to laziness when you want a job with the UK's most prestigious broadcaster. I think the continuity announcer in question sounds aggressive and uninviting. There is a lady with a Newcastle accent who introduces things in a regional accent, yet she pronounces things properly and comes across as warm and friendly at the same time.
Are you saying people didn't understand what he was saying because of his accent? Get a grip.
No - I'm talking about a decent standard of pronunciation in a professional broadcast environment. Thanks for your contribution.
It's part of his regional accent. In his accent the pronunciation is correct - there's no need to hold him to a prestige accent whose full use has almost completely died out.
I'm pretty sure every part of the UK use th to start the letter three and not f and regional accents doesn't equate to laziness when you want a job with the UK's most prestigious broadcaster. I think the continuity announcer in question sounds aggressive and uninviting. There is a lady with a Newcastle accent who introduces things in a regional accent, yet she pronounces things properly and comes across as warm and friendly at the same time.
SP
Times change. 20 years ago regional accents seemed to be banned on regional news programmes - compare Gaynor Barnes and Christine Talbot from 1994 with how they speak on air today