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The Weather Thread

For Domestic Coverage (November 2008)

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ST
Stuart
dragonhhjh posted:
Moz posted:
Hearing about some torrential rain in the North of Scotland is quite refreshing!

Unless you live there, of course.

If you are stood in it then I imagine it's even more refreshing than just hearing about it Laughing Wink
IS
Inspector Sands
dosxuk posted:
I would assume that either it cycles through the different graphics used in the software as it loads them, or, it shows a random image from those that it uses.


Yes, as it boots up it displays a series of icons and graphics
DO
dosxuk
Dunedin posted:
After all, it's not like people tune in fresh to the news channel at xx:27 and xx:57 do they? It's only when programmes finish on virtually every other channel and people start flicking channels.

Ah, the good old weather.


Sorry, but I quite often tune in to the news channel about 5 to the hour to watch the weather, then the news headlines. It gives me an idea of what I need to wear on my walk to (or from) work, and what's going on in the world. At the end of the day, I'm more interested in whether Russia has launched missiles at some rowdy Ukranians or I'm going to get soaked when I walk home from work at 3am, than whether the FTSE has lost 10 points in the last twenty minutes.

Weather affects everyone, financial news affects virtually no-one*.

* OK, it affects all of us in various ways, but none of us can do anything about it, so we don't worry about it. If we're going to get snowed in on the other hand, we do appreciate sufficient notice that we can nip to sainsbury's so we can stock up on the tins of beans.
DO
dosxuk
Inspector Sands posted:
dosxuk posted:
I would assume that either it cycles through the different graphics used in the software as it loads them, or, it shows a random image from those that it uses.


Yes, as it boots up it displays a series of icons and graphics


Software Engineers are so predicatable...

James Goodwin, BSC Computing (Software Engineering) Hons
CI
cityprod
Dunedin posted:
Nick Harvey posted:
Dunedin posted:
As I've said numerous times, it's a BBC News disgrace that its flagship 24 hour news channel on an average day will broadcast more weather per hour (approximately 5-6 minutes) than serious business journalism. Or indeed often analysis of the top story. And that's twice every hour guaranteed- even if it means cutting away from live breaking news because it would be a complete DISASTER to miss just one of the 48 weather spots everyday on the News Channel.

And now to add insult to this, they've added a specially extended weather bulletin at 8:25 called Weatherview, complete with rubbish geography diagrams to explain the weather. An utter waste of several minutes of primetime news real estate.

Let's keep the science of weather on documentaries and weather forecasts to the bare minimum. I really believe there is no need for more than one summary per hour, and its position should be entirely fluid with the news agenda. It needs no more than 2 minutes and should be easily voiced by the newsreader in the evenings and overnight (thereby cutting costs which can be diverted into real news reporting).

With Bloomberg and CNBC available on most platforms in the UK, but no dedicated weather channel (small w, small c), then I feel the business community are far better served already than those interested in the weather.

I see nothing at all wrong with two weather bulletins an hour; and, as it's a very specific subject, used by many to plan events, then it's essential that they be at fixed and predictable times, and not shunted around the schedule at the whim of a news producer.


I fundamentally disagree. Business news in this country is treated as a niche or specialist subject- hence your direction towards so-called specialist channels. As a result, the British population is one of the most financially naive in the developed world. The lack of understand of global markets, the possibilities of making (and losing) money through investments, developing sound portfolios etc. is shameful. Why should this be treated as too highbrow for the UK mass audience?

The great irony is that many of these people would happily mock the stereotype 'stupid yank', when in reality the business awareness of the US news-watching public is simply miles ahead of the UK.

Nobody can force a channel to cover a difficult or unsexy subject, but as the public service broadcaster, I really do believe that the BBC has a responsibility to teach and inform on business and the activity of the financial sector- one of the most important aspects of our economy and lives.

But no- we're British, so let's talk about the weather. Again. And Again.


I'm not sure that BBC News does cover business as well as it can, but I would say that it can't do the kind of job that CNBC, Bloomberg, Fox Business and BNN, and others like them, can do.

When a story merits coverage, BBC News does generally give it then coverage it needs, but it doesn't cover the day-to-day business news as well as it could. In fact, from what I've seen, BBC World does better. But because of certain rules, we don't get to see BBC World in this country.

I feel that because of the Breakfast simulcast, we don't get the business news service that the BBC really could provide. If anything, BBC News and BBC World News should simulcast til 8am, giving us a perfect intro into the European business day when the markets open at 8am.
LO
Londoner
Kirsty McCabe is joining GMTV
http://www.itv.com/PressCentre/Pressreleases/Programmepressreleases/NewfacesforGMTV/default.html
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rob Founding member
Replacing one Scot with another... seems like the logical thing to do!
JF
JamesyFish
rob posted:
Replacing one Scot with another... seems like the logical thing to do!


At that time of the morning, I can imagine not a lot of people noticing!
SP
Steve in Pudsey
Would this be the first time GMTV have had a trained forecaster rather than a presenter on the weather?
JO
Joshua
No, IIRC Claire is a trained meteorologist who qualified at the Met Office.

She's also responsible for all weather output at GMTV, producing it aswell. Even when shes not on air presenting it, shes still behind the scenes.
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Steve in Pudsey
Just checked and you do indeed remember correctly - thanks for that!
MI
mizzb
goldfish97 posted:
rob posted:
Replacing one Scot with another... seems like the logical thing to do!


At that time of the morning, I can imagine not a lot of people noticing!


Andrea McClean never came over as in your face lorraine kelly hoots mon, in fact I've generally preferred her moderated approach to the forecasts compared to the slightly dozy ( thick as a brick ) style of Claire.

The thought of K. McCaber giving it he full Balamory hellooooooooo first thing in the morning will guarantee I won't be watching her weeks. Confused

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