MW
I feel like some of this is at the discretion of each region. While there are certain refreshes that are clearly centrally mandated (1999, 2008, 2013, 2019), others feel like they are taken by each region. Some English regions, for instance, have had far more sets than others - some have only had two sets since 1999 (usually through refreshing the hell out of the 1999 one) while others have had four. If some of these rebrands are 'non-essential' then they presumably come out of the region's budgets and some may choose to spend their money on non-cosmetic things. It would be great to get an insider's take on this.
Full disclaimer; not an insider.
However it was alluded to on here that (outside of capital expenditure projects like The Forum, Birmingham, Salford or Plymouth moves and refurbs, or corporate mandated changes) set changes and refreshes come out of local budgets.
Nottingham for instance had a change in 1999 to the corporate look, then a new set in 2004 (Which was refreshed until with new set dressings/paint until recently it was refitted). Others got sets to match N6 from 2008 until 2010. This would have come from the programme budget to replace legacy hardware that is either not as efficient or not manufactured anymore.
Birmingham had the same core set (aside a refresh in 2010) for 6 years, with many components of that set surviving 7 years moving with them from Pebble Mill. Then two complete refits in 4/5 years (recycling the same rostrum). Again this was out of the programme budget; the 2017 set (which curiously uses a square rostrum) was down to a lack of versatility with the set installed in 2012 (with a massive desk and limited camera angles) - this meant the political programming always looked awkward as the furniture was too low. The parts from the old set were redeployed, the screens being used in the Mailbox for alternative presentation, office use - some even got sent to Scotland I'm led to believe for PQ to make use of. The new set is able to be lit and dressed more easily for the odd regional programme they now produce. The downside is now Politics England is a thing the set lighting is rarely changed from the base colours of red and white... a shame.
I feel like some of this is at the discretion of each region. While there are certain refreshes that are clearly centrally mandated (1999, 2008, 2013, 2019), others feel like they are taken by each region. Some English regions, for instance, have had far more sets than others - some have only had two sets since 1999 (usually through refreshing the hell out of the 1999 one) while others have had four. If some of these rebrands are 'non-essential' then they presumably come out of the region's budgets and some may choose to spend their money on non-cosmetic things. It would be great to get an insider's take on this.
Full disclaimer; not an insider.
However it was alluded to on here that (outside of capital expenditure projects like The Forum, Birmingham, Salford or Plymouth moves and refurbs, or corporate mandated changes) set changes and refreshes come out of local budgets.
Nottingham for instance had a change in 1999 to the corporate look, then a new set in 2004 (Which was refreshed until with new set dressings/paint until recently it was refitted). Others got sets to match N6 from 2008 until 2010. This would have come from the programme budget to replace legacy hardware that is either not as efficient or not manufactured anymore.
Birmingham had the same core set (aside a refresh in 2010) for 6 years, with many components of that set surviving 7 years moving with them from Pebble Mill. Then two complete refits in 4/5 years (recycling the same rostrum). Again this was out of the programme budget; the 2017 set (which curiously uses a square rostrum) was down to a lack of versatility with the set installed in 2012 (with a massive desk and limited camera angles) - this meant the political programming always looked awkward as the furniture was too low. The parts from the old set were redeployed, the screens being used in the Mailbox for alternative presentation, office use - some even got sent to Scotland I'm led to believe for PQ to make use of. The new set is able to be lit and dressed more easily for the odd regional programme they now produce. The downside is now Politics England is a thing the set lighting is rarely changed from the base colours of red and white... a shame.
GM
Weird start to tonight's Reporting Scotland. George handed over from the Six, then we went straight into a report from Andrew Kerr. After about 20 seconds of the report, a wide shot of Laura in the studio, then she welcomed viewers with no acknowledgment of the issue. She then introduced Andrew's report, which played from the start.
TH
It's my understanding that they never re-queued the running order. They also didn't play an end sting. Instead, Laura said her goodbyes and we simply cut straight into network weather.
Weird start to tonight's Reporting Scotland. George handed over from the Six, then we went straight into a report from Andrew Kerr. After about 20 seconds of the report, a wide shot of Laura in the studio, then she welcomed viewers with no acknowledgment of the issue. She then introduced Andrew's report, which played from the start.
It's my understanding that they never re-queued the running order. They also didn't play an end sting. Instead, Laura said her goodbyes and we simply cut straight into network weather.
TH
Not yet. But there are rumours that the plan is to have the whole 6:30 bulletin standing using the new desk.
Have we still not seen the new standing desk on air yet?
Not yet. But there are rumours that the plan is to have the whole 6:30 bulletin standing using the new desk.
PE
Seems like the wrong graphics were used today... no sign of that standing desk either.
JO
Not only that, the word ‘Scotland’ should be in bold. The new globe titles has the reverse, with ‘Reporting’ in bold. As for the music, the pre 2019 era was much better. All in all, I think BBC Wales Today’s set, titles and graphics are far superior.
they should’ve just kept the map in the first place lol
Not only that, the word ‘Scotland’ should be in bold. The new globe titles has the reverse, with ‘Reporting’ in bold. As for the music, the pre 2019 era was much better. All in all, I think BBC Wales Today’s set, titles and graphics are far superior.
DT
Not only that, the word ‘Scotland’ should be in bold. The new globe titles has the reverse, with ‘Reporting’ in bold. As for the music, the pre 2019 era was much better. All in all, I think BBC Wales Today’s set, titles and graphics are far superior.
I'd agree that on most aspects of presentation Wales Today does better than Reporting Scotland - but I'm not sure I'm with you regarding the set. Even if you can call a desk plonked in an empty studio a set, Wales Today's just looks like some awful hybrid of the worst aspects of TC7 and the materials of the NBH sets - and that's not even mentioning the underlit newsroom view or the gimmicky AR or ceiling mounted cameras.
they should’ve just kept the map in the first place lol
Not only that, the word ‘Scotland’ should be in bold. The new globe titles has the reverse, with ‘Reporting’ in bold. As for the music, the pre 2019 era was much better. All in all, I think BBC Wales Today’s set, titles and graphics are far superior.
I'd agree that on most aspects of presentation Wales Today does better than Reporting Scotland - but I'm not sure I'm with you regarding the set. Even if you can call a desk plonked in an empty studio a set, Wales Today's just looks like some awful hybrid of the worst aspects of TC7 and the materials of the NBH sets - and that's not even mentioning the underlit newsroom view or the gimmicky AR or ceiling mounted cameras.
UN
The standing desk finally made its debut tonight. I’m not a huge fan of it I think the bigger screen that they were using at the start of the programme before today worked a bit better than the 3 individual ones used today.
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