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The end of the British Broadcasting Corp

(June 2007)

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HE
Hermes
SCOTLAND TODAY ADDICT posted:
calum141 posted:
tvmercia posted:
calum141 posted:
Yeah I Suppose it would make it better for England.


yes ... thats right ... it'd be really great if the english licecnce fee payers could shell out on yet more programming for scotland. Rolling Eyes

how about a level playing field where your �135.50 gets you exactly the same level of service wherever you are in the UK. then for those nations, or politicians in nations, who want more can throw some money in the pot to fund these little add-ons. of course taking the argument further, the corporation ought to spread the jobs around the country more too, which in turn would make it more reflective of the entire country as opposed to being so rooted in london


Maybe how I said it gave you the wrong impression or possibilly you need to book an appointment at Specsavers - it would be benefitial to England because the license fee would have to decrease because we would just be paying for English service!

What a crap arguement and indeed thread. All very scaremongerish isn't it? If anything the fee would go up because there would be around 4 million less Liscence (sp?) fee payers.


I doubt the licence fee would (/could) go up in England to compensate. I'd imagine that once you knock off BBC Scotland's running costs & cost of Scottish only services, spread the network commissions that come from Scotland around England, Wales and Northern Ireland, you could probably plug any gap left by scrapping either BBC Three or BBC Four. It's any planned 'SBC' / BBC Scotland that would lose out overall.
JW
JamesWorldNews
And who would actually present the "Scottish" six? Scottish people?? And if so, why?
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A former member
BBC WORLD posted:
And who would actually present the "Scottish" six? Scottish people?? And if so, why?

Nah they'd get Polish people to present. They're cheaper.
CA
calum141
I think a lot of Scottish people and the 'a lot' is not representing the views I bet of anyone on this forum but these people want independance because they're so embarassed to be British and want their own goverment/laws/tv service/culture to be reconized etc.
HE
Hermes
calum141 posted:
I think a lot of Scottish people and the 'a lot' is not representing the views I bet of anyone on this forum but these people want independance because they're so embarassed to be British and want their own goverment/laws/tv service/culture to be reconized etc.


There is already a seperate government, legal system, tv service & culture Wink
ST
STVNews
calum141 posted:
I think a lot of Scottish people and the 'a lot' is not representing the views I bet of anyone on this forum but these people want independance because they're so embarassed to be British and want their own goverment/laws/tv service/culture to be reconized etc.
I don't think ashamed of being British is a correct evaluation of the situation whatsoever and is seriously flawed. Indeed I am a proud Brit and Scot myself, and know of many others. Those who support independence do so on the whole because they feel they have been given a raw deal from Westminster and want their country noticed on an International level. And yes as Hermes pointed out Scotland has always had its own seperate legal system and now government, had its own tv service (BBC Scotland) which does have a fair bit of independence from the main network, and has always had its' own culture.

Also, Scotland seperating from the BBC wouldn't happen as that sort of decision can only be made at Westminster under Gordion Brown's new government, which would probably never happen.
RM
Roger Mellie
calum141 posted:
No it's not going to happen for a while but just this week the First Minister for Scotland is asking for a Scottish six. User opinion say there should be a seperate broadcasting corparation for Scotland. In the upcoming decade do you think our "British" way of broadcasting will be changing. Just a theory


Isn't the BBC Scotland regional news at 18:30 good enough? Confused
ST
STVNews
Roger Mellie posted:
calum141 posted:
No it's not going to happen for a while but just this week the First Minister for Scotland is asking for a Scottish six. User opinion say there should be a seperate broadcasting corparation for Scotland. In the upcoming decade do you think our "British" way of broadcasting will be changing. Just a theory


Isn't the BBC Scotland regional news at 18:30 good enough? Confused

Yes.
Even during the 25 minute slot they have to fill up time using "quota" stories about sheep in orkney or a village fete in the borders.
TV
tvmercia Founding member
SCOTLAND TODAY ADDICT posted:
Also, Scotland seperating from the BBC wouldn't happen as that sort of decision can only be made at Westminster under Gordion Brown's new government, which would probably never happen.


its unfair to say it won't happen. it could happen, its just not hugely likely.

surely it would be down to liz - as she gave the bbc its charter.
SM
smgboi
It's worth getting back to the point, which is a Scottish Six. It's very much a controversial issue and this is why - the overwhelming sentiment within the BBC both in London and Glasgow was FOR a Scottish Six and research conducted both independently and by the BBC several years ago supported a Scottish Six. However, it was abandoned for political reasons. This outraged BBC Scotland staff who were basically all but ready to go ahead with the plans. Even the presenters wrote personal letters to the Government complaining about the U-turn.
CA
calum141
Roger Mellie posted:
calum141 posted:
No it's not going to happen for a while but just this week the First Minister for Scotland is asking for a Scottish six. User opinion say there should be a seperate broadcasting corparation for Scotland. In the upcoming decade do you think our "British" way of broadcasting will be changing. Just a theory


Isn't the BBC Scotland regional news at 18:30 good enough? Confused


Suits fine considering it's a country not a region.
HE
Hermes
smgboi posted:
It's worth getting back to the point, which is a Scottish Six. It's very much a controversial issue and this is why - the overwhelming sentiment within the BBC both in London and Glasgow was FOR a Scottish Six and research conducted both independently and by the BBC several years ago supported a Scottish Six. However, it was abandoned for political reasons. This outraged BBC Scotland staff who were basically all but ready to go ahead with the plans. Even the presenters wrote personal letters to the Government complaining about the U-turn.


That's not quite how the BBC Scotland 2003 Journalism Review found public opinion regarding the Scottish Six....

"38% of people chose one programme from Scotland, 45% chose the
current arrangement, and 17% did not know which option they
preferred."

Source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/scotland/aboutus/journalism/review.pdf

It was the 2003 review that basically put the Scottish Six on the back burner.

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