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IS
Inspector Sands
mark posted:
Plus home to the busiest airport in the world, and host of the 1996 Olympics!

Massive airport..... but as a hub for interconnecting flights rather than as a destination

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Certainly not an insignificant city. The problem is that national media (and therefore the people who work in it) has a habit of clustering in one or, at most, a handful of big cities - Paris for France, London and (somewhat artificially) Manchester for the UK, New York, LA and DC for the US.

Surely Manchester/Salford is a 'artificial' a hub for media as Atlanta is? One of the criticisms of Salford - not entirely fairly - is that programmes based there won't get people to appear on them.... I'd imagine there's not that pool of people in the Atlanta area
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mark Founding member
I meant artificial in the sense that the BBC deliberately relocated quite a few departments there as part of a drive to be less London-based. ITV's national presence there is longer-standing, of course - but, without the likes of BBC Breakfast, 5 Live and Sport, Salford would be much less of a hub for national media. Hopefully I'm not doing it too much of a disservice in saying that!

While I'm sure studio guests are easier to come by in New York than Atlanta, I doubt that this is a major factor for CNN - I'd say that down the line interviews are the norm on US news channels (UK ones too, in fact) as the best contributors are generally spread out across the country.
IS
Inspector Sands
mark posted:
I meant artificial in the sense that the BBC deliberately relocated quite a few departments there as part of a drive to be less London-based. ITV's national presence there is longer-standing, of course - but, without the likes of BBC Breakfast, 5 Live and Sport, Salford would be much less of a hub for national media. Hopefully I'm not doing it too much of a disservice in saying that!

Hmmmmm, in terms of news yes, but Manchester was a big centre for the BBC before Salford came along. They just did it the cack handed way of winding everything down and moving everything out then relocating other stuff there a decade or two later.
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Mouseboy33
CNN was created and operated perfectly fine for years without soley relying on NYC for anything. Being located in Atlanta did no damage to CNN as a brand or what they created and were able to accomplish. With all the consolidation and such happening in media and news channels and such... Atlanta will always be home of where the worlds first 24 hour news channel was created and founded.
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/131111212246-16-ted-turner-horizontal-large-gallery.jpg
Besides Atlanta/Georgia is a major player in the US as far as tv and movie production is concerned. There are a several major studios located there, including an outpost of UK's famed Pinewood studios and they just announced a major expansion in July.
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tmorgan96
I just don't get the reason why it's always New York.

The US is very decentralised; it isn't like the UK or Australia where 10-20% of the country's population can be found in the largest city. Besides, NY is tucked away in the corner of the country. You have places like LA, San Fran, Seattle, Phoenix, Chicago and Atlanta which all have markedly different cultures from one another and New York, which is why I don't really get why the whole obsession with CNN wanting to move/consolidate to the same city where its two largest rivals - MSNBC and Fox - are both prominently based. The major networks- CBS, NBC and ABC - all house their news divisions there too.

It just seems weird to me that CNN wants to become more like its competitors. Being in NY doesn't make or break a network, but being outside of NY might actually be a respectable point of difference for CNN.
Mouseboy33 and WW Update gave kudos
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Mouseboy33
If you havent seen the lastest pics CNNs new HQ is moving swiftly along. 30 Hudson Yards.
FYI here is their location in the new tower.
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Exterior
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HC
Hatton Cross
For someone who hasn't been to New York City since 2009, is this being built over that 10secs of daylight you used to see after emerging from the rail tunnels from New Jersey, before trundling back into the dismal gloom of Penn Station?
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seamus
For someone who hasn't been to New York City since 2009, is this being built over that 10secs of daylight you used to see after emerging from the rail tunnels from New Jersey, before trundling back into the dismal gloom of Penn Station?


Indeed. I believe the Hudson Yards development was initiated as a part of New York's 2012 Olympics Bid, where it would have been the site of the Olympic stadium.

I just don't get the reason why it's always New York.

The US is very decentralised; it isn't like the UK or Australia where 10-20% of the country's population can be found in the largest city. Besides, NY is tucked away in the corner of the country. You have places like LA, San Fran, Seattle, Phoenix, Chicago and Atlanta which all have markedly different cultures from one another and New York, which is why I don't really get why the whole obsession with CNN wanting to move/consolidate to the same city where its two largest rivals - MSNBC and Fox - are both prominently based. The major networks- CBS, NBC and ABC - all house their news divisions there too.

It just seems weird to me that CNN wants to become more like its competitors. Being in NY doesn't make or break a network, but being outside of NY might actually be a respectable point of difference for CNN.


I agree that the United States is relatively decentralized, but this map kind of demonstrates why is as dominant New York as it is:

http://www.realclimate.org/images/zeke_Figure2.png

New York's metropolitan area has around 20million people, which amounts to 6% of the country's population. Relatively small, but not too far off your 10% number. Furthermore, as the center of the Northeast Corridor of cities stretching from DC to Boston, which is about 20% of the US population or 50 million people, it's clear why they'd want to be located in the most dense area in the country.

It's a shame that they're consolidating, for I think a news channel based in Atlanta or Chicago would be very valuable! But I don't think it's a surprising or incomprehensible move. New York is the dominant city in a dominant region, and I don't think it's odd that a media organization would want to move their operations there, even if it is to the detriment to geographic diversity.

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