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(September 2015)

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NE
newsman1

Perhaps because BBC NI is in the same 'main channels crowd' as the broadcasters south of the border, and of course all channels (BBC, UTV, RTE, TV3, TG4) are routinely viewed north and south.


BBC Northern Ireland serves licence fee payers in Northern Ireland so I doubt it thinks about how much it is watched in the Republic.
MA
Markymark

Perhaps because BBC NI is in the same 'main channels crowd' as the broadcasters south of the border, and of course all channels (BBC, UTV, RTE, TV3, TG4) are routinely viewed north and south.


BBC Northern Ireland serves licence fee payers in Northern Ireland so I doubt it thinks about how much it is watched in the Republic.


Don't the Republic's cable cos have to pay to carry BBC 1 and 2 ?

Anyway, what's your theory for the DOG, considering it's the only BBC 'regional' news prog to carry one ?
DV
dvboy
Is there a history of any broadcasters stealing each other's pictures in NI or the Republic? That's the only reason I can think it might have a DOG.
CO
Colm
Newsline started using a DOG around 2002 - coincidentally, this was also the time when...

Arrow ...not every BBC English regional news programme was available on Sky Digital, only a selection were only available via the Red Button, all branded with DOGs to distinguish themselves from each other

Arrow ...UTV Live introduced an on-screen DOG (which was retained until one for the channel was introduced in 2009)
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NE
newsman1

Perhaps because BBC NI is in the same 'main channels crowd' as the broadcasters south of the border, and of course all channels (BBC, UTV, RTE, TV3, TG4) are routinely viewed north and south.


BBC Northern Ireland serves licence fee payers in Northern Ireland so I doubt it thinks about how much it is watched in the Republic.


Don't the Republic's cable cos have to pay to carry BBC 1 and 2 ?

Anyway, what's your theory for the DOG, considering it's the only BBC 'regional' news prog to carry one ?

Yes but the fact remains that BBC Northern Ireland serves people in Northern Ireland only.

Anyway, Col has answered the question about the DOG.
CH
chinamug

BBC Northern Ireland serves licence fee payers in Northern Ireland so I doubt it thinks about how much it is watched in the Republic.


Don't the Republic's cable cos have to pay to carry BBC 1 and 2 ?

Anyway, what's your theory for the DOG, considering it's the only BBC 'regional' news prog to carry one ?

Yes but the fact remains that BBC Northern Ireland serves people in Northern Ireland only.

Anyway, Col has answered the question about the DOG.


It's a lot more complicated than that. Under the Good Friday Agreement BBC programmes have to be made available to Republic of Ireland viewers. RTE and TG4 have to be available in Northern Ireland (to the point where they even broadcast on Freeview) As for funding BBC gets royalties from the Irish Cable companies and Sky. On top of all that BBC Northern Ireland has gotten Irish Government funds in the past for productions and usually gets an amount of the Irish Licence fee via the BAI Sound and Vision fund.

They must also care somewhat about what people in the republic think as they seem to enter every All Ireland Broadcasting award available. They're currently the Best television News programme in Ireland where they were competing with RTE, UTV Ireland, TG4, and TV3.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-34596868

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FL
flaziola
Now that ITV own UTV north and south does this mean that Ireland live now has access to ITN correspondence and journalists for international events?
DV
dvboy
I imagine both ways. UTV's Ruth Gorman reporting for ITV News at Ten tonight.
RD
rdd Founding member
Now that ITV own UTV north and south does this mean that Ireland live now has access to ITN correspondence and journalists for international events?


I didn't think so, but I haven't watched Ireland Live much recently.
RI
Richard


It's a lot more complicated than that. Under the Good Friday Agreement BBC programmes have to be made available to Republic of Ireland viewers. RTE and TG4 have to be available in Northern Ireland (to the point where they even broadcast on Freeview) As for funding BBC gets royalties from the Irish Cable companies and Sky. On top of all that BBC Northern Ireland has gotten Irish Government funds in the past for productions and usually gets an amount of the Irish Licence fee via the BAI Sound and Vision fund.

They must also care somewhat about what people in the republic think as they seem to enter every All Ireland Broadcasting award available. They're currently the Best television News programme in Ireland where they were competing with RTE, UTV Ireland, TG4, and TV3.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-34596868


That isn't true about the Good Friday agreement. The only reference to broadcasting is "explore urgently with the relevant British authorities, and in co-operation with the Irish broadcasting authorities, the scope for achieving more widespread availability of Teilifis na Gaeilige in Northern Ireland;".

This led to a low powered transmission of TG4 as it by then was to Greater Belfast on analogue.

The later Memorandum of Understanding between the two governments mentioned facilitating RTE availability in NI and BBC availability in ROI on DTT, however, the Irish government states

"The Memorandum commits the two Governments to facilitating the widespread availability of RTÉ services in Northern Ireland on a free-to-air basis and BBC services in Ireland on a paid for basis. The provision of BBC throughout Ireland is a commercial decision for BBC as, unlike RTÉ, BBC does not have a mandate to provide its services throughout the Island of Ireland.
The Memorandum also ensures the continuing widespread availability of TG4 in Northern Ireland following the digital switchover."
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CO
Colm
Jamie Delargy, UTV's Business Editor and a member of Havelock House staff for over 35 years, has confirmed via Twitter he's retiring from the station...





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flaziola
http://www.itv.com/news/utv/update/2016-07-12/controlled-explosion-carried-out-on-item-in-belfast-city-centre/
Were there any disruptions to broadcasts this morning? Newsline looks ready to go as normal this lunchtime.

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