BA
It isn't stupidity more than ignorance of a distinction that isn't that well-known to the general public; to most viewers he is first and foremost a weather presenter. I would argue that the intelligent viewers would work out that the BBC was using a person with meteorological expertise to comment on a news story.
In any case, isn't it the BBC's duty to make the news understandable for all viewers? Unnecessary jargon doesn't help that. If they really felt it necessary to explain how he is qualified (which isn't usually necessary for their journalists), then explanation of it would have been made in the introduction.
Not sure I agree. The BBC shouldn't dumb down to meet some viewers' low intelligence. If someone has worked hard to become a meteorologist they should be credited as such. It also enhances their credibility in the eyes of those viewers who do understand the term.
It isn't stupidity more than ignorance of a distinction that isn't that well-known to the general public; to most viewers he is first and foremost a weather presenter. I would argue that the intelligent viewers would work out that the BBC was using a person with meteorological expertise to comment on a news story.
In any case, isn't it the BBC's duty to make the news understandable for all viewers? Unnecessary jargon doesn't help that. If they really felt it necessary to explain how he is qualified (which isn't usually necessary for their journalists), then explanation of it would have been made in the introduction.
SP
Forecaster, according to his biog http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/hi/about/newsid_7844000/7844382.stm
I don't know if Jay is a full Met Office forecaster, or a presenter.
Forecaster, according to his biog http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/hi/about/newsid_7844000/7844382.stm
IS
What about the regional forecasters? I know the one in the South West is ex national so is a full forecaster but presumably they go through a short Met Office course?
Yes. The BBC national on-screen "weather presenters" include both fully qualified meteorologists (with met degrees or similar who are also full Met Office forecasters) and less-academically qualified (though still Met Office trained) presenters. They all work for the Met Office rather than the BBC. I don't know if Jay is a full Met Office forecaster, or a presenter.
Historically all the Met Office weather presenters on the BBC were full forecasters, but this changed when News 24 launched I believe (back in 1997)
Historically all the Met Office weather presenters on the BBC were full forecasters, but this changed when News 24 launched I believe (back in 1997)
What about the regional forecasters? I know the one in the South West is ex national so is a full forecaster but presumably they go through a short Met Office course?
NG
What about the regional forecasters? I know the one in the South West is ex national so is a full forecaster but presumably they go through a short Met Office course?
I think the regional presenters are a bit of a mix. Some are fully qualified forecasters who have been given some TV training (or are ex-national forecasters who presented), others are presenters who have been hired for their presentation abilities but gone through some Met Office or similar weather training so that they know what they are talking about (but don't have full Met training and qualifications to forecast) In the "old days" (early-to-mid 90s and before) many regional weather presenters did the TV bits it in addition to working as forecasters at the local Met Officer regional operation. That's certainly how Look East used to work.
Pete Gibbs would fax (how quaint) his charts over from the Norwich Weather Centre to the newsroom where graphics would then make them up. Pete would then turn up just before transmission to check them before presenting the bulletin on Look East.
noggin
Founding member
Yes. The BBC national on-screen "weather presenters" include both fully qualified meteorologists (with met degrees or similar who are also full Met Office forecasters) and less-academically qualified (though still Met Office trained) presenters. They all work for the Met Office rather than the BBC. I don't know if Jay is a full Met Office forecaster, or a presenter.
Historically all the Met Office weather presenters on the BBC were full forecasters, but this changed when News 24 launched I believe (back in 1997)
Historically all the Met Office weather presenters on the BBC were full forecasters, but this changed when News 24 launched I believe (back in 1997)
What about the regional forecasters? I know the one in the South West is ex national so is a full forecaster but presumably they go through a short Met Office course?
I think the regional presenters are a bit of a mix. Some are fully qualified forecasters who have been given some TV training (or are ex-national forecasters who presented), others are presenters who have been hired for their presentation abilities but gone through some Met Office or similar weather training so that they know what they are talking about (but don't have full Met training and qualifications to forecast) In the "old days" (early-to-mid 90s and before) many regional weather presenters did the TV bits it in addition to working as forecasters at the local Met Officer regional operation. That's certainly how Look East used to work.
Pete Gibbs would fax (how quaint) his charts over from the Norwich Weather Centre to the newsroom where graphics would then make them up. Pete would then turn up just before transmission to check them before presenting the bulletin on Look East.
SW
Slight technical issues on the Six O'Clock News tonight. No opening music or pan to the studio, just a few jaunty cameras and straight to Fiona.
BA
It was a few different camera shots, looked strange.
Slight technical issues on the Six O'Clock News tonight. No opening music or pan to the studio, just a few jaunty cameras and straight to Fiona.
It was a few different camera shots, looked strange.
BA
Bail
Moderator
For anyone who's missed it there are some superb images of NBH on the eternal dreams site that so wonderfully documented TVC.
http://www.eternaldreams.co.uk/bbc-broadcasting-house
http://files.site-fusion.co.uk/webfusion4451/image/1396849_10202310467543550_678960731_o.jpg
http://www.eternaldreams.co.uk/bbc-broadcasting-house
http://files.site-fusion.co.uk/webfusion4451/image/1396849_10202310467543550_678960731_o.jpg