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Garageband recreations of music from various BBC News shows (March 2015)

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SomeRandomStuff
... I'm using Garageband which is designed for simple music. I am pretty pleased with what I've done with the music, since Garageband is very simple software. I am pushing the software to it's limits, it doesn't have features to allow me to make these changes, and since this is a recreation, I don't think it should sound exactly like the original.

I've spent years fiddling about with Garageband with varying degrees of failure and no proper training and i find balancing/mixing audio extremely difficult so i can appreciate your frustrations.


However, a poor workman blames his tools. To suggest you have pushed the software to it's limits is arrogant. Just because you have been unable to proficiently use Garageband to achieve your stated goal does not mean it is impossible.

This is the closest i feel i ever got to replicating the BBC News theme. It was produced in Garageband in 2012...
BBC News Titles
I find Drums to be the most complicated thing to get right. I am certain that a more proficient user could do better. Whether they could be bothered is another matter.

You can improve upon what you have already achieved. You need to fiddle around with ALL the settings on ALL the instruments. Even if you only have the default instruments and none of the BandPacks you will still be able to achive a great many things. I also recommend working on some non-BBC projects, you'll learn more about the software and find solutions to problems you can apply to this mock.

It may look like a simple program but it is very capable of producing complex projects.

Keep working on it and you'll see an improvement.


Thanks, I wasn't really blaming my tools as such, I was just claiming that I didn't think I could do much better in Garageband. Your BBC News Title music has proved me wrong. Is that all default instruments or are some bandpacks?

I used some of David Lowe's original thunderclaps. The rest of the drums are definitely from the bandpacks - you get countless new 'real' sounding instruments including around 30 new drumsets and the entire Orchestra as well as a load of other bits and bobs (and several thousand loops) so its definitely worth buying.

However, all the 'new' synths are just new presets for the default Analog / Digital / Hybrid synth instruments. So in my music, the bass and all of the synths use default instruments. (As defaults go they are pretty versatile and you can layer many different effects onto them. It seems like you only have to move the sliders one pixel across the screen to change the sound on some of them.)

The Garageband Bandpacks can no longer be bought separately, but i think everything that came with them is now included with Mainstage which is £23 on the Apple App Store.

Of course having the bandpacks hasnt particularly improved my ability.

I've had them since April 2012 this was created in March 2012 from entirely default instruments.
WH
whoiam989
Speaking of that, what instruments do I need for orchestral, electric and modern news scores? (By the way, with my new computer and new OS, I'm considering to use Music Maker Jam.)

10 days later

JT
JamesTV
The whole BBC News collection is here:

An improved version of my countdown (version 6):
http://files.jamescraker.com/Music/BBC%20News%20Countdown%20Remakes/BBC%20News%20Countdown%20Remake%20Version%206.mp3

If it won't play, here's a direct link.
http://files.jamescraker.com/Music/BBC%20News%20Countdown%20Remakes/BBC%20News%20Countdown%20Remake%20Version%206.mp3

The Headline Bed (Version 1):
REUPLOADING SOON

And the title music (Version 1):
REUPLOADING SOON

Feedback welcome as always Smile
Last edited by JamesTV on 30 October 2015 7:39pm
HB
HarryB
An improved version

I think not.
Sounds the same as the other versions.

The titles version does not sound the same nor is it in sync.
JT
JamesTV
An improved version

I think not.
Sounds the same as the other versions.

The titles version does not sound the same nor is it in sync.

Listen to version 5 and you will notice a difference, more percussion, stronger bass.

What do you mean by the titles not sounding the same or in sync?

12 days later

DV
dvboy
I am still hearing the thunderclaps in the wrong places in the countdown. When it comes to the title music though, it's fine.

I have checked and they seem to be in the right place. Which ones do you think are I in the wrong place?


I'm not a regular in this part of the forum so apologies for the long delay in posting this regarding your 3rd version of the countdown music. I think the Matthew thought the thunderclaps were in the wrong place because they didn't match what he was used to seeing visually. And in a way he's right.

I think the issue is that you had the climax of the music at the point the visual countdown reaches 1:00, not 0:00, which suggests the thunderclap, and the beat as a whole, is a second early throughout. The thunderclap is in the right place musically, but if you're trying to match it with the video, it's out of sync.

Remember, the point at which you visually see the 00 of the last second on the screen is actually a frame after 01:00, therefore you have to have the final beat a second after this at 00:00. There are other visual clues where thunderclaps should be as they match cuts in the film or actions by people in it.

You went the other way with version 4 so it was even more out of sync, and then you're back to the same problem with v 5 which sounds really strange at the end like you've tried to extend it to fit. In version 6 the video reaches 00:00 before your music reaches its climax, so you've compensated too much in the other direction.

I also think you generally, you might have some of the strings an octave high, and the sounds at a higher pitch may be downing out those we're used to hearing more prominently.
Last edited by dvboy on 12 October 2015 1:22am - 4 times in total
JT
JamesTV
dvboy posted:
I am still hearing the thunderclaps in the wrong places in the countdown. When it comes to the title music though, it's fine.

I have checked and they seem to be in the right place. Which ones do you think are I in the wrong place?


I'm not a regular in this part of the forum so apologies for the long delay in posting this regarding your 3rd version of the countdown music. I think the Matthew thought the thunderclaps were in the wrong place because they didn't match what he was used to seeing visually. And in a way he's right.

I think the issue is that you had the climax of the music at the point the visual countdown reaches 1:00, not 0:00, which suggests the thunderclap, and the beat as a whole, is a second early throughout. The thunderclap is in the right place musically, but if you're trying to match it with the video, it's out of sync.

Remember, the point at which you visually see the 00 of the last second on the screen is actually a frame after 01:00, therefore you have to have the final beat a second after this at 00:00. There are other visual clues where thunderclaps should be as they match cuts in the film or actions by people in it.

You went the other way with version 4 so it was even more out of sync, and then you're back to the same problem with v 5 which sounds really strange at the end like you've tried to extend it to fit. In version 6 the video reaches 00:00 before your music reaches its climax, so you've compensated too much in the other direction.

I also think you generally, you might have some of the strings an octave high, and the sounds at a higher pitch may be downing out those we're used to hearing more prominently.

Thanks for the feedback, however the visual to audio timings are out because the music is a 90 second countdown and the countdown video is only just over 80 seconds, it's the longest I could find.
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PATV Scunthorpe
I think he is slightly right, when the music 'ramps up' (I don't know music terms) your starts 45 an actual countdown starts at 46
JT
JamesTV
I think he is slightly right, when the music 'ramps up' (I don't know music terms) your starts 45 an actual countdown starts at 46

All to do with the length of the countdown footage again. I tried to line it up perfectly with the audio but its hard with my video editing software. No. 45 in the video is a second out from no. 45 in my music. If somebody could link me to an exactly 90 second BBC countdown video then it would be fine but currently the countdown I'm using is only about 80-85 seconds. My main focus is the music which I spend hours on and for the video I just quickly put the countdown video in and try to line it up, but it isn't really possible since my music is 90 seconds long and the video footage isn't.
DK
DanielK
I think he is slightly right, when the music 'ramps up' (I don't know music terms) your starts 45 an actual countdown starts at 46

All to do with the length of the countdown footage again. I tried to line it up perfectly with the audio but its hard with my video editing software. No. 45 in the video is a second out from no. 45 in my music. If somebody could link me to an exactly 90 second BBC countdown video then it would be fine but currently the countdown I'm using is only about 80-85 seconds. My main focus is the music which I spend hours on and for the video I just quickly put the countdown video in and try to line it up, but it isn't really possible since my music is 90 seconds long and the video footage isn't.

Can you not have a blank screen for 5 seconds then fade up into a perfectly synced countdown?
JT
JamesTV
I've tried that but it seems to be out of sync when I export the video
JT
JamesTV
My YouTube Network has asked me to remove my BBC remake videos as the visuals in the videos are from the BBC. I am really unsure what to do. I could reupload every video without BBC visuals but that would take too long. So maybe I should just delete all of my videos and upload the next BBC remake without BBC visuals?

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