DT
I know, its not like the BBC has A - any shortage of presenters they must have tonnes in the building at one time and B - It'll probably take 10 minutes tops for them to get from the basement to Studio E. At TVC they had to get from N6 to N8 in about 5 minutes and N6 was quite a way of the newsroom and N8 was up a flight of stairs. They can easily do 10 minutes of reports/correspondent coverage or in the case of breaking news does it even matter that they switch studios?
Why do so many people in here seem to think the biggest logistical challenge with splitting the NC / national news is getting a presenter to the right studio? 
I know, its not like the BBC has A - any shortage of presenters they must have tonnes in the building at one time and B - It'll probably take 10 minutes tops for them to get from the basement to Studio E. At TVC they had to get from N6 to N8 in about 5 minutes and N6 was quite a way of the newsroom and N8 was up a flight of stairs. They can easily do 10 minutes of reports/correspondent coverage or in the case of breaking news does it even matter that they switch studios?
DO
I know, its not like the BBC has A - any shortage of presenters they must have tonnes in the building at one time and B - It'll probably take 10 minutes tops for them to get from the basement to Studio E. At TVC they had to get from N6 to N8 in about 5 minutes and N6 was quite a way of the newsroom and N8 was up a flight of stairs. They can easily do 10 minutes of reports/correspondent coverage or in the case of breaking news does it even matter that they switch studios?
I keep getting the impression of some of them sitting at home, staring at these conversations about gallery facilities, lines, technical staff availability and just screaming "WON'T SOMEBODY THINK OF THE PRESENTERS!?" before bursting into tears...
Why do so many people in here seem to think the biggest logistical challenge with splitting the NC / national news is getting a presenter to the right studio?
I know, its not like the BBC has A - any shortage of presenters they must have tonnes in the building at one time and B - It'll probably take 10 minutes tops for them to get from the basement to Studio E. At TVC they had to get from N6 to N8 in about 5 minutes and N6 was quite a way of the newsroom and N8 was up a flight of stairs. They can easily do 10 minutes of reports/correspondent coverage or in the case of breaking news does it even matter that they switch studios?
I keep getting the impression of some of them sitting at home, staring at these conversations about gallery facilities, lines, technical staff availability and just screaming "WON'T SOMEBODY THINK OF THE PRESENTERS!?" before bursting into tears...
FL
Just to pick up on that, Studio C isn't used for World News America (normally) but the gallery for Studio C is, All output for World News America is controlled from London. Think of it like a permanent outside broadcast.
Sorry to weigh in late on the debate over Thursday's coverage, if I'm not mistaken it has been mentioned before that Studio's A and E are on completely different floors so whoever does the BBC News at Nine on the NC has to then move across NBH to E to pick it up again at 10:30 after the News at 10, so it would seem impossible to keep them in A or another studio to cover any breaking news in reality, unless you switched to the presenter on location (as there was on in this case) to deliver the breaking news.
Also C isn't being used as at 10pm UKT WN is showing World News America from Washington so you would have a studio available
and I assume the Newsday presenter for the evening could be used if there a gallery to feed it to if necessary. This was the case during the Boston Bombings when Babita Sharma started earlier in C, and was joined by Clive Myrie, albeit for a WN/NC simulcast but in theory the same logic could be used if a similar situation arose.
Just to pick up on that, Studio C isn't used for World News America (normally) but the gallery for Studio C is, All output for World News America is controlled from London. Think of it like a permanent outside broadcast.
NG
I dislike the way news broadcasters tend to use bad quality clips from YouTube rather than getting actual broadcast footage. They even sometimes do it to illustrate something on their own channel.
Some clips of Corrie used in the Michael LeVell story have been poor quality, it isn't as if sourcing clips of him in Coronation Street is the hardest thing to do.
Adverts are notoriously difficult to source in quality.
When it comes to Corrie clips, the chances are that the news broadcasters are "fair dealing" the clips (where you can use a clip for "reporting current events" or "criticism or review" without paying the rights holder)
However this means that they are almost certainly unable to source a broadcast quality copy, as they won't be buying the material in the same way that someone buying a clip or episode would be (and then they'd be paying artist and writers fees as well as transfer fees etc.) - so would need to record "off air" at best, and source from DVD, YouTube, VHS, internal archive system etc. otherwise.
noggin
Founding member
Robert Peston's piece on the return of the TSB brand included an old advert, complete with TV Ark DOG! Slightly cheeky
I dislike the way news broadcasters tend to use bad quality clips from YouTube rather than getting actual broadcast footage. They even sometimes do it to illustrate something on their own channel.
Some clips of Corrie used in the Michael LeVell story have been poor quality, it isn't as if sourcing clips of him in Coronation Street is the hardest thing to do.
Adverts are notoriously difficult to source in quality.
When it comes to Corrie clips, the chances are that the news broadcasters are "fair dealing" the clips (where you can use a clip for "reporting current events" or "criticism or review" without paying the rights holder)
However this means that they are almost certainly unable to source a broadcast quality copy, as they won't be buying the material in the same way that someone buying a clip or episode would be (and then they'd be paying artist and writers fees as well as transfer fees etc.) - so would need to record "off air" at best, and source from DVD, YouTube, VHS, internal archive system etc. otherwise.
DA
Much as early TV Burp did with Eastenders, et al - VHS quality at best.
...so would need to record "off air" at best, and source from DVD, YouTube, VHS, internal archive system etc. otherwise.
Much as early TV Burp did with Eastenders, et al - VHS quality at best.
OF
No Network Bulletin for BBC News Channel as they split and go with a BBC News Special in Studio C
SW
Given they didn't make the announcement until about 9.25, they could have simulcast in any case. We can at least see why the Beeb don't do the Nine O'Clock News anymore as the last two occasions the news has been at 9pm they've missed a breaking story, last time was in November when George Entwistle proved his incompetence by resigning about ten seconds too late.
No Network Bulletin for BBC News Channel as they split and go with a BBC News Special in Studio C
Given they didn't make the announcement until about 9.25, they could have simulcast in any case. We can at least see why the Beeb don't do the Nine O'Clock News anymore as the last two occasions the news has been at 9pm they've missed a breaking story, last time was in November when George Entwistle proved his incompetence by resigning about ten seconds too late.
DF
Given they didn't make the announcement until about 9.25, they could have simulcast in any case. We can at least see why the Beeb don't do the Nine O'Clock News anymore as the last two occasions the news has been at 9pm they've missed a breaking story, last time was in November when George Entwistle proved his incompetence by resigning about ten seconds too late.
What are you talking about? Very few breaking news stories happen just after 21:15, it's just unfortunate timing - and George Entwistle didn't organise his own live resignation annoucement either.
No Network Bulletin for BBC News Channel as they split and go with a BBC News Special in Studio C
Given they didn't make the announcement until about 9.25, they could have simulcast in any case. We can at least see why the Beeb don't do the Nine O'Clock News anymore as the last two occasions the news has been at 9pm they've missed a breaking story, last time was in November when George Entwistle proved his incompetence by resigning about ten seconds too late.
What are you talking about? Very few breaking news stories happen just after 21:15, it's just unfortunate timing - and George Entwistle didn't organise his own live resignation annoucement either.
MU
I know, its not like the BBC has A - any shortage of presenters they must have tonnes in the building at one time and B - It'll probably take 10 minutes tops for them to get from the basement to Studio E. At TVC they had to get from N6 to N8 in about 5 minutes and N6 was quite a way of the newsroom and N8 was up a flight of stairs. They can easily do 10 minutes of reports/correspondent coverage or in the case of breaking news does it even matter that they switch studios?
What planet are you living on?
Yes, any old goon can be thrown in front of a camera at a moment's notice, but you seem to think that there are 'presenters' sat around. The only news anchors in the building will be the ones on air, the ones preparing, and the ones working on other stuff.
N6 was a door away from the newsroom in TVC, not a long way away. N8 was pretty much right above it, one level up.
You guys all seem to think that any scenario can be implimented at a moment's notice, but it's just not possible. Stuff doesn't just happen. Crew don't magically appear to get the studios going. Presenters don't just turn up. You don't appriciate just how complicated things are.
Why do so many people in here seem to think the biggest logistical challenge with splitting the NC / national news is getting a presenter to the right studio?
I know, its not like the BBC has A - any shortage of presenters they must have tonnes in the building at one time and B - It'll probably take 10 minutes tops for them to get from the basement to Studio E. At TVC they had to get from N6 to N8 in about 5 minutes and N6 was quite a way of the newsroom and N8 was up a flight of stairs. They can easily do 10 minutes of reports/correspondent coverage or in the case of breaking news does it even matter that they switch studios?
What planet are you living on?
Yes, any old goon can be thrown in front of a camera at a moment's notice, but you seem to think that there are 'presenters' sat around. The only news anchors in the building will be the ones on air, the ones preparing, and the ones working on other stuff.
N6 was a door away from the newsroom in TVC, not a long way away. N8 was pretty much right above it, one level up.
You guys all seem to think that any scenario can be implimented at a moment's notice, but it's just not possible. Stuff doesn't just happen. Crew don't magically appear to get the studios going. Presenters don't just turn up. You don't appriciate just how complicated things are.
DO
That's what I was trying to get across
You guys all seem to think that any scenario can be implimented at a moment's notice, but it's just not possible. Stuff doesn't just happen. Crew don't magically appear to get the studios going. Presenters don't just turn up. You don't appriciate just how complicated things are.
That's what I was trying to get across
Why do so many people in here seem to think the biggest logistical challenge with splitting the NC / national news is getting a presenter to the right studio?