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(October 2019)

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MA
mark Founding member

It made me think of this...
fusionlad and fanoftv gave kudos
RA
Ratflump
Niall back in Millbank at 0830 after an excursion to the newsroom for the first 1.5 hours. The screens in the studio look better today, seems like the diffusion has been removed?


The screens look SO MUCH BETTER. Like night and day. It had been really distracting to me previously.
ME
mediamonkeyuk
Niall back in Millbank at 0830 after an excursion to the newsroom for the first 1.5 hours. The screens in the studio look better today, seems like the diffusion has been removed?


The screens look SO MUCH BETTER. Like night and day. It had been really distracting to me previously.


Indeed, here are a couple of before and after shots for comparison...

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AA
aaron_scotland
That is so much better. Was it not said the diffuser was mostly for the benefit of Kays 'soft news' show? Makes sense to get rid of it since she is away.
ME
mediamonkeyuk
That is so much better. Was it not said the diffuser was mostly for the benefit of Kays 'soft news' show? Makes sense to get rid of it since she is away.


I believe so but it appears Niall is doing exactly the same format with the same lighting anyway so not sure why it was an issue before? Also gets rid of the distraction caused by those hideous bezels Very Happy
DO
dosxuk
That is so much better. Was it not said the diffuser was mostly for the benefit of Kays 'soft news' show? Makes sense to get rid of it since she is away.


The diffuser is to stop moire effects caused by the pixels of the LED screen. Think the weird lines and circles you get if you try and take a picture with your phone close up of a computer monitor, except constantly moving.

The downside of the diffusion is that it also blurs light from the front, so when working close to the screen any light shone (or bounced) into the diffuser will be visible, reducing the contrast of the actual screen.

It may be that they've experimented and found that with the camera settings and distances they're actually using it's not as bad as they expected when the studio was designed, so have been able to remove them.
VA
valley
That is so much better. Was it not said the diffuser was mostly for the benefit of Kays 'soft news' show? Makes sense to get rid of it since she is away.


The diffuser is to stop moire effects caused by the pixels of the LED screen. Think the weird lines and circles you get if you try and take a picture with your phone close up of a computer monitor, except constantly moving.

The downside of the diffusion is that it also blurs light from the front, so when working close to the screen any light shone (or bounced) into the diffuser will be visible, reducing the contrast of the actual screen.

It may be that they've experimented and found that with the camera settings and distances they're actually using it's not as bad as they expected when the studio was designed, so have been able to remove them.

Correct - some positions for talent have been changed as a result of the diffusion removal. There are still moire issues but it is not terrible.
DT
DTV
That is so much better. Was it not said the diffuser was mostly for the benefit of Kays 'soft news' show? Makes sense to get rid of it since she is away.


The diffuser is to stop moire effects caused by the pixels of the LED screen. Think the weird lines and circles you get if you try and take a picture with your phone close up of a computer monitor, except constantly moving.

The downside of the diffusion is that it also blurs light from the front, so when working close to the screen any light shone (or bounced) into the diffuser will be visible, reducing the contrast of the actual screen.

It may be that they've experimented and found that with the camera settings and distances they're actually using it's not as bad as they expected when the studio was designed, so have been able to remove them.


I believe they have a similar system for the LED panels at NBH, which I know forum members have also complained about for the 'washed out' appearance they create. I've always assumed that you could get around this problem by darkening or changing the colour settings of the input?
DO
dosxuk
DTV posted:
I've always assumed that you could get around this problem by darkening or changing the colour settings of the input?


Nope. If you've got light on the diffuser black parts of the screen will no longer be black. Even if the screen is completely blank it will appear a greyish colour.

While you could adjust your camera settings, anything in front of the screen will look weird instead. There's no easy solution, it's all about compromises.
DT
DTV
DTV posted:
I've always assumed that you could get around this problem by darkening or changing the colour settings of the input?


Nope. If you've got light on the diffuser black parts of the screen will no longer be black. Even if the screen is completely blank it will appear a greyish colour.

While you could adjust your camera settings, anything in front of the screen will look weird instead. There's no easy solution, it's all about compromises.


I suppose higher pitch LEDs are a solution, although quite expensive right now. I think that's what BBC Washington has, and the quality of their displays is far superior to the videowalls at NBH in both clarity and contrast.
JA
jay Founding member
Niall back in Millbank at 0830 after an excursion to the newsroom for the first 1.5 hours. The screens in the studio look better today, seems like the diffusion has been removed?


The screens look SO MUCH BETTER. Like night and day. It had been really distracting to me previously.


Indeed, here are a couple of before and after shots for comparison...

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Now they've done that, maybe they can work on turning down the saturation... the orange-ness of the Palace of Westminster is just too much and looks awful in my opinion. I understand entirely it's meant to show it at 'sunrise', but it looks a bit silly at 1 o'clock in the afternoon.
Meridian AM and Alfie Mulcahy gave kudos
ME
mediamonkeyuk
jay posted:

The screens look SO MUCH BETTER. Like night and day. It had been really distracting to me previously.


Indeed, here are a couple of before and after shots for comparison...

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Now they've done that, maybe they can work on turning down the saturation... the orange-ness of the Palace of Westminster is just too much and looks awful in my opinion. I understand entirely it's meant to show it at 'sunrise', but it looks a bit silly at 1 o'clock in the afternoon.


I just wish they had a live shot to be honest. Surely it's not beyond the realms of possibility considering they seemingly have one for Ian King Live.

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