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UKnews
rdd posted:
The BBC used to take the world feed instead of the US domestic broadcast, nowadays both BBC and Sky have the domestic broadcast.

Since they first showed the Super Bowl live in 2008 (other than the couple of years it was on C4) they’ve only taken the world feed once*, and that was the very first year. They said at the time they did that because, as they weren’t experienced showing it, the world feed was easier to work with because it had a fixed number of fixed length add breaks.

(*They might have on one other occasion but since that first year it’s been the norm for them to take the US network feed.)

The BBC have got very good at blanking and sponsorship messages use a beauty shot or clean feed, no doubt helped by carefully following the feed from the truck producing the game. They’ve just done that tonight, but it was a dirty feed (with clean audio) with NFL Network branding, this was to hide some Pepsi advertising on the CBS feed.


This may be a stupid question, but is part of the reason for not showing those ads, even as an 'entertainment-only experience' Ofcom restrictions? I mean does Ofcom have rules about showing ads of items/services not directly available in Britain?

It’s more the BBC being ultra cautious about avoiding product placement style advertising. Sky are happy to let it go because Ofcom are more forgiving with live events where the UK broadcaster has no control over the feed.

Each broadcaster has a different approach. BT are very hot (and good at) blanking sponsorship messages. Sky tend to let them go a bit more, unless it’s a clear 30 second ad and they’ve a studio to go back to, in which case they’ll step away.

BBC are also blanking the AWS sponsored stars features, where as Sky aren’t. Again, different policies for each broadcaster, the BBC being very cautious given their public funding at the attention / criticism they’d get, even for something outside their control.
GM
Gary McEwan
I think Channel 4 just let it slide and showed the adverts as well.

But the constant switching between CBS and NFL Network is quite jarring especially when it cuts to it and there's no commentary for what is probably no more than a 10 second sponsor sting.
WI
willparkinson
BBC feed seems very messy compared to Sky constantly cutting to the dirty, silent NFL network feed
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UKnews
I think Channel 4 just let it slide and showed the adverts as well.

But the constant switching between CBS and NFL Network is quite jarring especially when it cuts to it and there's no commentary for what is probably no more than a 10 second sponsor sting.

It’s a bit more than that - the Pepsi one was, pretty much, a read promo encouraging you to buy / scan a can of Pepsi. That’s the sort of ‘call to action’ type ad that the BBC could end with a lot of criticism for showing and - outside of a live event - Ofcom wouldn’t be happy with on Sky either. The AWS feature had some incredibly prominent branding. I think the NFL has loosened the restrictions on sponsorship messages during the Super Bowl, as they are an usually large number of them tonight.

The BBC are always going to have a lot more attention around anything like that.
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UKnews
BBC feed seems very messy compared to Sky constantly cutting to the dirty, silent NFL network feed

It’s that or not have the CBS feed at all. Most recently plugging the sponsored half time report.

Mark Chapman has just explained why they keep cutting away, I did wonder if he’d end up doing that.
GM
Gary McEwan
Mark Chapman has just explained to the viewers why it keeps on switching...

I wasn't going to use the IPTV tonight but I might need to fire it up and get WCBS on instead.
WI
willparkinson
Don’t really see the point in trying to cut them out. It’s a live event and how’s it any different than showing the ads all around the stadium?
TI
TIGHazard
During the London games they normally talked over the bits where they had to cut away, didn't they? Gave a few stats.
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UKnews
Don’t really see the point in trying to cut them out. It’s a live event and how’s it any different than showing the ads all around the stadium?

Ads at the event where the event not the broadcaster is being paid, verses ads as part of the coverage where the broadcaster is being paid, have always been considered completely separately.
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UKnews
During the London games they normally talked over the bits where they had to cut away, didn't they? Gave a few stats.

If they know it’s going to be a 30 second ad then I’d expect them to fill. So far they’ve been squeezed in between plays, so going to the world feed ensures they don’t miss a play, just a bit of CBS commentary.

This isn’t any different from what the BBC have done with the Super Bowl in previous years, just then they had a completely clean version of the word feed, so it didn’t had quite the as much as tonight with the sudden change of graphics.
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TIGHazard
Don’t really see the point in trying to cut them out. It’s a live event and how’s it any different than showing the ads all around the stadium?

Ads at the event where the event not the broadcaster is being paid, verses ads as part of the coverage where the broadcaster is being paid, have always been considered completely separately.


Exactly, the Microsoft Surface ads around the side of the field (and on the giant screen when it say replay) are fine.
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Brekkie
Considering how much the NFL goes on about wanting to expand the profile around the world you would think they'd show international broadcasters the respect of having a proper world feed.

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