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JA
james-2001
Looking at the BBC Archive copy of the as-broadcast Xmas 1995 edition the glitches seem very remisicent of what I'd sometimes get when playing back mini DV tapes. Usually for me playing the tape again and it would be fine, and if not, running a head cleaning tape would fix it. Don't know if it's more complicated with broadcast formats though!
CO
Colm
Used to laugh out loud at the "Hey you, you take those pants off" line. I assume it's a sample from somewhere... like most of the track.


One of the other fun bits, the 'Uncle Don' (or not) ending, of course not included there.
AB
AcerBen


It's certain they'll include the number one having had a bit of a steer, they certainly did in 2015 which was the same scenario.


What time is the chart actually made available, because if it is available in the morning, I wonder why Radio 1 aren't doing it in the morning so Katie Thistleton doesn't have to present the chart slap bang in the middle of the afternoon (it's on air 2-4pm earlier than the usual 4-5:45 slot). It's also made even more irrelevant if BBC One have already announced it hours earlier.


The chart is released to industry some time around 10am.
AB
AcerBen
Unsurprising that their performance wasn't shown really - as much as it was a nice send-up visually with the costumes and cobwebs across their keyboards, there of course just isn't much going on:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAE74L0bsCE


According to the Kaleidoscope book, it did get an airing on TOTP Plus on UK Play in January. They did two or three editions of that every week - it was basically clips of recent TOTP performances of songs still in the top 40.
AB
AcerBen
DE88 posted:
Although I enjoyed the 1995 music a lot, probably the first full year I was absolutely obsessed with the chart and pop music, the first presentation reminded of how frustrating that era of the show was. Looked amazing - great to see those titles on tv again - but awful presenters (baffling Paul McKenna gag by Jack Dee into N-Trance and Bjork clearly out of her comfort zone). And the way during the run through of each month they mentioned who was first guest presenting TOTP that month! As if anyone gives one!


As I said, the guest presenters were Ric Blaxill's idea - and he stuck with it even as the viewing figures went down.

One wonders how much of a factor it was in the show's move to Fridays in mid-'96...


I quite liked it and I don't think anything Blaxill did affected the ratings in a negative way. It was stiill averaging 6.5-7 million viewers before they moved it, and then it was consistently below 5 million. Amazing really how badly the Friday move hurt it.
SW
Steve Williams
I quite liked it and I don't think anything Blaxill did affected the ratings in a negative way. It was stiill averaging 6.5-7 million viewers before they moved it, and then it was consistently below 5 million. Amazing really how badly the Friday move hurt it.


I remember in this period that pretty much every time the show wasn't on opposite Coronation Street, the ratings went up - certainly one of the few times I remember it getting into Broadcast's Top 70 of the week was during the 1998 World Cup when it was on at, surprise, 7pm on Thursday. Which suggests that however many revamps they did of it, the only revamp that would have had any effect would have been a crap revamp of Corrie.

On two occasions in 1997, when the regular slot was unavailable, it was on BBC2, but at 6.25 after The Simpsons, which perhaps wasn't a bad idea, it had a good lead-in and was in a slot where the target audience were regularly watching. Perhaps a shame they didn't do that more often when they had to move it. One benefit of the Friday slot in the early days was that there'd be a nice flow from BBC2, circa 1998 we would watch The Simpsons and Robot Wars until 7.30, and then switch over to Pops, and that worked quite well. But in later years that BBC2 slot deteriorated and it became increasingly adrift in the schedules, I remember in 2003 it was preceded for several months by Open All Hours repeats, which is hardly the most appropriate lead-in.

According to the Kaleidoscope book, it did get an airing on TOTP Plus on UK Play in January. They did two or three editions of that every week - it was basically clips of recent TOTP performances of songs still in the top 40.


I have this book, I bought it about a decade ago (I remember it was on Amazon a few years later for a ludicrous price) and at the time it was absolutely fascinating, although these days there's probably less info in there than you'll find on the episode guides on Popscene. Essentially it's a running order for every episode of Pops but as you say, circa 1998 it starts including all ten million episodes of Top of the Pops Plus, making it virtually impossible to navigate. And it's clearly from someone's personal database which they haven't bothered to edit, so there are comments alongside some of them like "tape runs out after Queen", "breakup of satellite signal halfway through" and even "we were in the audience for this one and we rocked!".
JA
JAS84
They clearly didn't learn their lesson from Doctor Who, which had been cancelled in 1989 after having been moved to a slot that competed with Corrie. Airing at the same time as Corrie was a graveyard slot for the BBC. Even today, they always make sure EastEnders doesn't clash with it, knowing that ratings will be lower if it does.
BU
buster
I know we usually say "it was put in that slot to kill it off", but they certainly took their time with it - 9 years it sat on BBC One opposite Corrie. Is it possible it was put in that slot almost to have an answer ready-made in response to the already falling ratings, almost to protect it? Unlikely perhaps but if they wanted shot of it, it took them a long time to do it.

Looking at Genome, they tried briefly at running the Saturday repeat during Saturday Aardvark, which was an interesting idea but ended when Live and Kicking returned. The Saturday night repeat was initially in a half-decent post-pub slot (and even as early as 2315 one week in October 1996) but before long ended up being the last programme before closedown usually ridiculously late. At least once towards the end of the BBC One run it ended up at 0530 as a direct lead-in to BBC Breakfast!
SW
Steve Williams
I know we usually say "it was put in that slot to kill it off", but they certainly took their time with it - 9 years it sat on BBC One opposite Corrie. Is it possible it was put in that slot almost to have an answer ready-made in response to the already falling ratings, almost to protect it? Unlikely perhaps but if they wanted shot of it, it took them a long time to do it.


Well, indeed, if they wanted to get rid of it, they could have just got rid of it regardless. I always cite the drama Zen with Rufus Sewell from the other year - it rated well on BBC1, but it was axed because they thought it was too similar to other series on the channel, it was quite expensive to make and Danny Cohen didn't think much of it. And if someone wanted to axe Pops, they could have just done it. There's no need to run it down and cite lack of interest like trying to close down a train service. As you say, it was in that slot for nine years - it was only at 7pm on Thursdays for ten and a half!

As you say, for the first few weeks the repeat was on Saturday morning, and I wondered where it would go when Live and Kicking returned, as you say it moved about twelve hours later. Its only other appearance on a Saturday morning, before TOTP Saturday of course, was in July 1998 when because of overrunning Wimbledon it ended up going out at 11pm (a bit of a novelty that, watching Top of the Pops in bed) and it got an unbilled repeat at 10am to make up for it.
CO
Colm
According to the Kaleidoscope book, it did get an airing on TOTP Plus on UK Play in January. They did two or three editions of that every week - it was basically clips of recent TOTP performances of songs still in the top 40.


I have this book, I bought it about a decade ago (I remember it was on Amazon a few years later for a ludicrous price) and at the time it was absolutely fascinating, although these days there's probably less info in there than you'll find on the episode guides on Popscene. Essentially it's a running order for every episode of Pops but as you say, circa 1998 it starts including all ten million episodes of Top of the Pops Plus, making it virtually impossible to navigate. And it's clearly from someone's personal database which they haven't bothered to edit, so there are comments alongside some of them like "tape runs out after Queen", "breakup of satellite signal halfway through" and even "we were in the audience for this one and we rocked!".


"28-03-2003... Colm in the audience"

Who he?
Last edited by Colm on 22 December 2020 5:46pm
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Richard
Coming back to the Christmas chart and if they do the full top 10 then there is a problematic track at no 8 in the current midweek chart. Even heavily censored, title isn’t exactly family friendly.

https://www.officialcharts.com/charts/singles-chart-update/
JA
james-2001
I'd rather than be number one than the sauage roll bloke Razz

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