granada or itv granada ?

Sorry for confusion. What I mean is like ITV London, London, ITV Central, as Central England. Regions that takes the name after a place or the place.

So bascially Granada are allowed to retain their regional identity name of Granada even though its totally meaningless and doesnt actually reflect any image about its location in the slightest!

Whereas, Harlech is a place in Wales and also just happened to be one of the names of a founder of the Channel but has been forced to change to ITV Wales! (which for some reason I actually prefer! hmmm)

"Meridian" refers to a certain line which happens to run through the region. The word itself also means "South" (supposedly).

The name has associations with part of the region, granted, but it is not in itself a term that you would use to describe the south of England.

I still think ITV Harlech would be a cool name to replace ITV1 Wales! As it WOULD be meaningful....especially as Lord Harlech created the channel 30 or so years ago or something. So what if he's gone and no longer around? They kept the 'H' in HTV for countless years after he left the station. So what did everyone think HTV stood for then? What's the point of using 'H'TV if noone knew what ithe H stood for?

HTV is just a shortened form of Harlech TV, even though Harlech wasn't menionned much.
YTV is just a shortened form of Yorkshire TV, even though YTV hasn't been mentionned much recently. What is the difference?

ITV Harlech would be cool! A station named after the founder! Unique and original!
ITV Wales is just generic and dull really, even if it does mean what it says on the tin.

Meridian was actually chosen because it didn't refer to being Southern or in the South.

While on the subject Anglia is a term relating to the whole of England is it not, with the Anglia region actually being in East Anglia.

I actually like the name ITV Wales as well, it took a while to get used to it after having HTV for so long. At least Wales is in the title, from 1993-2002 it was known as just HTV, not HTV Cymru Wales as it was pre 1993.

And it makes sence to have the news and the channel the same, it was daft having HTV News on ITV1 Wales.

ITV Harlech sounds great! How about ITV TWW , which could then go bust!

Seriously though, the branding is less of a mess than it appears. If the main branding is a set of hree letters with "TV" in it, then you can only have one of these. HTV had to go, but the underlying Harlech is well lost as a brand, so would have been pointless.

All the other names are strong brands that are consistently, not quite the offical description of an area, but always very descriptive of it. So ITV would be daft to drop Anglia, Border, Meridien, Central Westcountry, Tyne-Tees or even Yorkshire.

Granada and London are actually the least descriptive geographically, although Granada is a pretty powerful brand locally, and the alternative would have them using the BBC's North West tag.

ITV would have to pay-up for this, but I'd guess that ITV Thames would be a pretty good local brand to adopt in London.
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It wasn't so much that they named the TV company after a cinema, the cinema companies were the TV stations so they had their name

Calm down, dear.

Breathe deeply.

And accept that this is the way it is....

All they have to do to make ITV Granada a name that reflects a proper regional title, would be to open a new ITV Region in Gibralter!

Thump a half decent signal up the Costa del Sol and they may even get some ad revenues out of the thing.

The likes of "ITV Central" and "ITV London" literally describe the region (although, arguably, "Midlands" would make a "better"/more "fundamental" choice of word than "Central")

A name like "ITV Tyne Tees" relates to its region in even less "fundamental" terms (the names of two major rivers in the region, is not quite the same as an actual description of the region - i.e "North East")

A name like "ITV Meridian" is even more vague. Yes, the Meridian line is within the region, but it's hardly as evocative a choice as, say, river names (like Tyne Tees, obv.) or something.

Technically, the word "Anglia" is a historic word meaning "(all of) England", rather than specifically Eastern England. In present-day Polish, for example, the word for "England" still is "Anglia"!

In the ancient days of "kingdoms" such as Mercia, Wessex, etc, the kindom in the east of England (from which the ITV company presumably draws its name), was " East Anglia". Without the word "East" the name "ITV Anglia" actually means "ITV England", rather than "ITV East" as is intended, so is technically a not-even-remotely-regional name.

But most English/British people (rightly or wrongly) only associate the word "Anglia" with the East of England, and are unaware of the technicality I've raised here. Therefore in realistic terms, the name "Anglia" is perferctly adequate for the East.

So, virtually every ITV regional name is (at least vaguely) regionally-related.

"ITV Granada" is really the only one that isn't. The North West may have gained the nickname "Granadaland" after the TV company came along, but that's the whole point - the nickname has come from the TV company, rather than the TV company getting its name from the region.

So, pre-Granada Television, the word "Granada" wasn't a synonym for "North west England", and I feel that it still isn't.

Presuming that ITV drop the old company names in favour of geographic names in the future (e.g. "ITV Meridian" becomes "ITV South & South East" or whatever), one may find that some names are saved (e.g. "ITV Central" may possibly be considered suitable enough to not need to be renamed as "ITV Midlands"). But clearly "Granada" is no substitute for "North West" so has to go!