MA
Your TV may well have grabbed hold of a sniff of it. Many models run a UHF scan straight after you return
them to standby. Remember also the L-Muxes are QPSK (not the more fragile 64QAM modulation such as the other DVB-T1 muxes). I suspect your set caught a sniff of CP during an enhanced period of reception (last Saturday's ridge of high pressure ?) My Sonys often grab the Sutton Coldfield muxes during such periods, and stick BBC 1 WM etc on Ch 800 (I live in Hampshire)
Edit March 8th. I see London Live has added itself to my Freeview EPG too, despite only
a glimmer of signal available
London Live has appeared on my Channel 8 and I live in Gloucestershire... No Signal reported though, is it actually transmitting anything yet or have I got a rogue channel that I need to get rid of?
Your TV may well have grabbed hold of a sniff of it. Many models run a UHF scan straight after you return
them to standby. Remember also the L-Muxes are QPSK (not the more fragile 64QAM modulation such as the other DVB-T1 muxes). I suspect your set caught a sniff of CP during an enhanced period of reception (last Saturday's ridge of high pressure ?) My Sonys often grab the Sutton Coldfield muxes during such periods, and stick BBC 1 WM etc on Ch 800 (I live in Hampshire)
Edit March 8th. I see London Live has added itself to my Freeview EPG too, despite only
a glimmer of signal available
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LO
More on London Live's news output here:
http://www.standard.co.uk/londonlive/london-live-the-heart-of-current-affairs-9170910.html?origin=internalSearch
http://www.standard.co.uk/londonlive/london-live-the-heart-of-current-affairs-9170910.html?origin=internalSearch
MO
Very catch-phrase-y. Few, if any, new specific details. (Still givin' you the side-eye LondonLive)
More on London Live's news output here:
http://www.standard.co.uk/londonlive/london-live-the-heart-of-current-affairs-9170910.html?origin=internalSearch
http://www.standard.co.uk/londonlive/london-live-the-heart-of-current-affairs-9170910.html?origin=internalSearch
Very catch-phrase-y. Few, if any, new specific details. (Still givin' you the side-eye LondonLive)
DO
The thing is though that people have tried to launch local television station in the UK and they haven't worked. These new stations aren't the result of someone finally fulfilling demand that has always been present, but a pet project of a few government ministers who're looking after their own interests.
Even at a national level, there isn't the interest in 24 hour rolling news that you seem to believe there should be. If the BBC can't justify running a 24 hour UK only news channel I doubt anyone would even contemplate trying to do that with a tiny subset of the audience focusing on one small area. As others have said, Sky News runs at a loss - again the audience doesn't exist.
London is the largest ad market in the UK. There is money to made, but is seems no one wants to or knows how to make it work. Amazing. Seems to me London is a vastly under reported city.
Heck if Bay News 9 can operate successfully in Tampa Florida since 1997, I cant see how 24hr news couldnt work in a massive global city like London. I mean even the Russians figured it out.
But I guess if you've never had local 24 hour news channels, you couldn't imagine it working.
Heck if Bay News 9 can operate successfully in Tampa Florida since 1997, I cant see how 24hr news couldnt work in a massive global city like London. I mean even the Russians figured it out.
But I guess if you've never had local 24 hour news channels, you couldn't imagine it working.
The thing is though that people have tried to launch local television station in the UK and they haven't worked. These new stations aren't the result of someone finally fulfilling demand that has always been present, but a pet project of a few government ministers who're looking after their own interests.
Even at a national level, there isn't the interest in 24 hour rolling news that you seem to believe there should be. If the BBC can't justify running a 24 hour UK only news channel I doubt anyone would even contemplate trying to do that with a tiny subset of the audience focusing on one small area. As others have said, Sky News runs at a loss - again the audience doesn't exist.
LL
London Lite
Founding member
One one hand, Vikki Cook mentions they'll try to avoid gimmicks, which probably means the news output will be full of it.
As long as they don't use Daybreak's '5 a day'
As long as they don't use Daybreak's '5 a day'
MO
Even at a national level, there isn't the interest in 24 hour rolling news that you seem to believe there should be. If the BBC can't justify running a 24 hour UK only news channel I doubt anyone would even contemplate trying to do that with a tiny subset of the audience focusing on one small area. As others have said, Sky News runs at a loss - again the audience doesn't exist.
I understand your point completely. Facts are facts. If the viewers arent there, then the advertisers aren't there either. So a commercial news channel might run at loss. BUT.....here is a question to think about. Is there something "not right" with the way the channels are being run? Are they programmed right? I think those are valid questions. Can the programing/presentation style that's been in place in the UK for decades still be financially viable? Whilst it may be appreciated for its journalistic merits, if no one is watching or the audience is extremely small, whats the point. BEFORE everyone on here implodes. Im not saying SKYNews Should go all crazy OTT like FOXNEWS. But is there a strategy that can bring in more viewers? And you say local channels have been tried and failed. And frankly thats because of the way TV is set up in the UK. NO im not saying its wrong, its just different and was not set up for local television. ChannelM was a serious attempt, but it was well before its time. The problem as I see it that the local channels try to mimic National Channels but fail. Local is local, stay in your wheelhouse. But this strategy might allow local tv to grow. (But so far the only serious contender is LondonLive).
I know its hard to imagine the point of a local news channel, but as the UK has never had one and they've existed across US and Canada for decades, you cant just dismiss their value to a metro area. Just ask New Yorker and their love and passion for NY1. They went nuts when TimeWarner Cable wanted to simply change the name. Ask a Torontonian what they think of CP24 you'll get same type of response. I understand that something new may sound ridiculous, most people laughed at Ted Turner when he launched CNN!
Even at a national level, there isn't the interest in 24 hour rolling news that you seem to believe there should be. If the BBC can't justify running a 24 hour UK only news channel I doubt anyone would even contemplate trying to do that with a tiny subset of the audience focusing on one small area. As others have said, Sky News runs at a loss - again the audience doesn't exist.
I understand your point completely. Facts are facts. If the viewers arent there, then the advertisers aren't there either. So a commercial news channel might run at loss. BUT.....here is a question to think about. Is there something "not right" with the way the channels are being run? Are they programmed right? I think those are valid questions. Can the programing/presentation style that's been in place in the UK for decades still be financially viable? Whilst it may be appreciated for its journalistic merits, if no one is watching or the audience is extremely small, whats the point. BEFORE everyone on here implodes. Im not saying SKYNews Should go all crazy OTT like FOXNEWS. But is there a strategy that can bring in more viewers? And you say local channels have been tried and failed. And frankly thats because of the way TV is set up in the UK. NO im not saying its wrong, its just different and was not set up for local television. ChannelM was a serious attempt, but it was well before its time. The problem as I see it that the local channels try to mimic National Channels but fail. Local is local, stay in your wheelhouse. But this strategy might allow local tv to grow. (But so far the only serious contender is LondonLive).
I know its hard to imagine the point of a local news channel, but as the UK has never had one and they've existed across US and Canada for decades, you cant just dismiss their value to a metro area. Just ask New Yorker and their love and passion for NY1. They went nuts when TimeWarner Cable wanted to simply change the name. Ask a Torontonian what they think of CP24 you'll get same type of response. I understand that something new may sound ridiculous, most people laughed at Ted Turner when he launched CNN!
Last edited by Mouseboy33 on 6 March 2014 4:00pm - 2 times in total
LL
London Lite
Founding member
The test transmission loop now includes programme trailers and idents for the channel. Still nothing about the news output yet.
ST
Do we know yet whether LondonLive will just cover Greater London (City and 32 Boroughs) or the traditional London TV region which includes large parts of the Home Counties?
LL
Their core editorial area is 'Greater London and inside the M25', whether they decide to cover a story in Watford or Epsom is negligible.
London Lite
Founding member
Do we know yet whether LondonLive will just cover Greater London (City and 32 Boroughs) or the traditional London TV region which includes large parts of the Home Counties?
Their core editorial area is 'Greater London and inside the M25', whether they decide to cover a story in Watford or Epsom is negligible.
LL
London Lite
Founding member
London Live have announced the first of their current affairs shows on Page 48 of tonight's Standard.
The advert also asks for performers to send in clips and they may invite them on the show. So basically The One Show meets ITV News London by the looks of it.
Quote:
Not The One Show is your 7pm daily fix of current affairs on London Live - London's new 24/7 entertainment channel, it's an irreverent, inquisitive and unpredictable view of the day presented by Louise Scodie.
The advert also asks for performers to send in clips and they may invite them on the show. So basically The One Show meets ITV News London by the looks of it.