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BBC News Channel General Discussion

(November 2013)

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SP
Steve in Pudsey
To avoid 4 minutes of padding at the end, because Victoria is a clock start to meet BBC2?
IN
Independent
I like how such an incident was handled so professionally. Had this been in North America, they would have had a giggle fest for the entire four minutes until the top of the hour.

Does anyone know how well Outside Source is doing viewership-wise in the UK? Thanks in advance.
Last edited by Independent on 4 August 2015 9:56pm
GI
ginnyfan
She didn't even blink. Well handled!
DV
dvboy
It looks to me as though the weather forecast was missing. Not sure if it is normally live or pre-recorded but since Business Live was introduced I think the forecaster covering Today does the 0826 and 0856 news channel forecasts. Everything would logically have been setup ready for the 0900 opening and so it seems they either kicked it off because the forecast was missing or it was an error and easier just to keep going.


Possibly recorded if it's the last one of the shift.

Looks like the "coming up" for Victoria Derbyshire is pre-recorded too and slotted into the headline sequence.
DV
dvboy
I like how such an incident was handled so professionally. Had this been in North America, they would have had a giggle fest for the entire four minutes until the top of the hour.


It's single headed so no-one to have a giggle with. Did Carole make any reference to it or did she play it completely straight? Martine Croxall certainly would have light-heartedly apologised at least, which I think would be better.
IN
Independent
Fair point. I remember not being critical when there were light-hearted responses on the BBC in the clips shared on this forum. You made me realize I have a bit of a double standard and a bit biased against things in North America. Embarassed
JU
Justin

Is the clip from BBC News at the beginning of this video from the initial rehearsals done at NBH? I say that because of the lighting set up in Studio E. The countdown also seems to be a rough prototype cut of the World version without the data streams and even using some stock clips!
RK
Rkolsen
I like how such an incident was handled so professionally. Had this been in North America, they would have had a giggle fest for the entire four minutes until the top of the hour.

Does anyone know how well Outside Source is doing viewership-wise in the UK? Thanks in advance.


I don't think that would be the case. There are plenty of shows that have a brief commercial break before TOTH and they do a live toss to the next host. Even if they don't do a live toss usually the final seconds of the preceding show involves a live tease of the upcoming show. During those teases the anchors are ready to go.

Plus the BBC which from what I understand has no traditional master control where all elements and break fillers are played out from the control room. US networks have master controls which can easily playout promos and commercials until the problem is resolved.

As an aside it seems like US cable / broadcast networks have far fewer catastrophic breakdowns than the BBC does in a year.
WH
whoiam989
As an aside it seems like US cable / broadcast networks have far fewer catastrophic breakdowns than the BBC does in a year.


A bit off topic here: Here in South Korea, all the TV channels usually have almost zero to no such breakdowns, so, as I remember, when the government-controlled (but guaranteed independence) public broadcaster KBS made a once-in-a-lifetime breakdown, there were outrages from the general public unlike the UK. (Don't quote me on that, though. Remember, "as I remember".)
EL
elmarko
Surely you can just consider RedBee the master control?
SR
SomeRandomStuff
As an aside it seems like US cable / broadcast networks have far fewer catastrophic breakdowns than the BBC does in a year.


A bit off topic here: Here in South Korea, all the TV channels usually have almost zero to no such breakdowns, so, as I remember, when the government-controlled (but guaranteed independence) public broadcaster KBS made a once-in-a-lifetime breakdown, there were outrages from the general public unlike the UK. (Don't quote me on that, though. Remember, "as I remember".)

Could it perhaps be to do with priorities? ie. most broadcasters being presentationally slick yet being a mess editorially, wheras the BBC tends to spend its money on newsgathering and isnt as bothered about the occasional breakdown?

Or perhaps the shere quantity of output from the BBC means there are going to be more errors?
SP
Steve in Pudsey
Surely you can just consider RedBee the master control?


The domestic news channel doesn't go through RedBee other than for subtitling.

AIUI it's run a lot like a typical* radio station - there are a bunch of studios, any of which (or other sources such as playback of a pre-recorded programme) can be selected to the distribution circuit via a router. There is no seperate presentation operation.

* typical meaning not working with a continuity studio.

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