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CH
chris
Bail posted:
salfordjohn posted:
I know I'm not imagining this.... but there is a version of the theme music which begins with a definite BEEP BEEP before the cymbal crash into the melody.

You are correct, the version on David Lowes site starts with the beeps, perhaps how he prefers it, Breakfast have always used the pipless version.

Much like his version of The One Show has an extra little twang before they start, which the broadcast version does not.


You can hear it when Breakfast used the music in 2009. It clashed with the bed so I assumed that was why they changed both the bed and the titles.

http://youtu.be/AK6cV40mjbM
AN
Andrew Founding member
Fair to say that Charlie and Naga, particularly Charlie, was out of his comfort zone interviewing sports stars this morning.
LX
lxflyer
Actually I thought the final interview was excellent.

Breakfast is not a specialist sports show, nor would I expect it to be. Charlie and Naga were asking the sort of questions that people watching who are not experts about (for example) judo - probably the vast majority of viewers - would ask.

I couldn't see any issue at all.
Stuart, Cando and tightrope78 gave kudos
NG
noggin Founding member
Bail posted:

Much like his version of The One Show has an extra little twang before they start, which the broadcast version does not.


I think that's the version The One Show used for the first week or so, then there was a tweak to the current version (guitar replaced by trumpet).
SW
Steve Williams
lxflyer posted:
Breakfast is not a specialist sports show, nor would I expect it to be. Charlie and Naga were asking the sort of questions that people watching who are not experts about (for example) judo - probably the vast majority of viewers - would ask.


And, of course, Naga has won Mastermind with her specialist subject of golf, so she's certainly got some sporting knowledge.
BP
Bob Paisley
Steve Williams posted:
lxflyer posted:
Breakfast is not a specialist sports show, nor would I expect it to be. Charlie and Naga were asking the sort of questions that people watching who are not experts about (for example) judo - probably the vast majority of viewers - would ask.


And, of course, Naga has won Mastermind with her specialist subject of golf, so she's certainly got some sporting knowledge.

Not enough to correctly refer to football teams in the plural, as is the convention in British broadcast journalism. Whenever she talks about them in sports copy - she says Generic FC 'is' rather than 'are'...but I realise this is a very specific and particular hobby-horse on my part.
BA
bilky asko
Bob Paisley posted:
Steve Williams posted:
lxflyer posted:
Breakfast is not a specialist sports show, nor would I expect it to be. Charlie and Naga were asking the sort of questions that people watching who are not experts about (for example) judo - probably the vast majority of viewers - would ask.


And, of course, Naga has won Mastermind with her specialist subject of golf, so she's certainly got some sporting knowledge.

Not enough to correctly refer to football teams in the plural, as is the convention in British broadcast journalism. Whenever she talks about them in sports copy - she says Generic FC 'is' rather than 'are'...but I realise this is a very specific and particular hobby-horse on my part.


That's a general aspect of British English grammar - "the Government are" being the obvious example - that's gar from universal.
NG
noggin Founding member
Here's the BBC Academy style guide : http://www.bbc.co.uk/academy/journalism/article/art20130702112133530 This confirms that teams can be referred to either as singular or plural depending on the context.

Quote:

Singular and plural

Treat collective nouns - companies, governments and other bodies - as singular. There are some exceptions:

Family, couple or pair, where using the singular can sound odd
Sports teams - although they are singular in their role as business concerns (eg: Arsenal has declared an increase in profits)
Rock/pop groups
The police, as in Police say they are looking for three men. But individual forces are singular (eg The Metropolitan Police says there is no need to panic).


Note that teams (unusually) are deemed plural when referred to in sporting terms as a group of people (e.g. Generic FC are travelling) but when thought of as a business they are singular (e.g. Generic FC has announced a rise in pre-tax profits) However I think it is forgivable - particularly in a scripted link which Naga may have only read for the first time as it scrolled in front of her live.

Not all BBC outlets follow this guide (it's mainly aimed at News). Strictly refer to their couples as singular (e.g. the couple leaving us IS) whereas the News style guide would prefer the plural (e.g. the couple leaving us ARE) which does sound better, particularly if you list two names after.
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News96
So here's something i found quite unusal-In today's RT i found that Charlie, Naga and Louise are all down for Next Monday's Breakfast-unless Next Monday is coming from both Glasgow and Salford, surely that can't be right?
GE
Gareth E
News96 posted:
So here's something i found quite unusal-In today's RT i found that Charlie, Naga and Louise are all down for Next Monday's Breakfast-unless Next Monday is coming from both Glasgow and Salford, surely that can't be right?


Monday is the 100th anniversary of Britain's declaration of war in 1914. I'd say its a combination of that, and the Commonwealth Games closing ceremony from the night before.
SA
salfordjohn
Video of the 2 mins between Breakfast and the Commonwealth Games starting in the same studio at 9am

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=915267021820770&set=vb.127439507270196&type=2&theater
SA
salfordjohn
Curious how difficult it seems to be to get the BBC Breakfast logo off the desk to reveal the BBC Sport logo!

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